LB7: Merged TTS ECM threads

SteveFord

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Here is the thing....there are alot of people out there taking credit for others testing and hard work and they know who they are. Will it ever end...nope. All this stuff has went from helping each other in the past to it being about business and making money. Kind of the nature of the beast I guess.
To the original poster..you could always try Craigs List and see if it sells.
 
GMC_2002_Dmax

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Jess,

Steve has claimed for years that he has some table or tables that is the Holy Grail of tuning tables.

If you look at the list of trucks running 9's, 10's, 11's they tuned by EFI-Live for the most part.

Dmax Quick 50

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1.Banks Rail 7.17 @ 181.08
2.Banks Sidewinder Type-D 7.72 @ 179
3.Dirtymax 8.82 @ 150.42 (7-24-10)
4.N20 Dmax 9.70 @ 129.47 (broke innercooler boot before the finish)
5.Max'd Out Rob 9.71 @ 140.96 (4-11-10)
6.Mike Woods Dmax Mustang 9.717 @ 147.88
7.Extreme Prejudice 9.87 (7-10-10) @ 146.13 (5-15-10)
8.Orange Crush 9.87 @ 139
9.Mika 9.897 (8-29-10) @ 138.70 (8-14-10)
10.Sweetdiesel 10.286 @ 144.09 (9-3-10)
11.Nasty Girl 10.35 @ 131
12.BadDmax 10.43 @ 132.31
13.J&R Auto GMC 10.465 (8-14-10) @ 131.38
14.Stingpuller 10.47 @ 131.75
15.Casper 10.59 @ 128
16.White Out 10.703 @ 130.39 (8-27-10)
17.Camomax 10.71 @ 130.54 (5-26-10)
18.Duramini2001 10.72 @ 138.566 (5-15-10)
19.Rhall 10.72 @ 128.0
20.OSUBeaver 10.73 (8-21-10) @ 127.62 (7-10-10)
21.02Bigstrokin 10.732 @ 129.59 (9-8-10)
22.Othrgrl 10.74 @ 135.94 (6-19-10)
23.NolanW 10.85 (9-3-10) @ 125.31 (7-24-10)
24.NLDP 10.85 @ 123
25.Rush/Big Bird/Kelly Froese 10.90 @ 129 (8-14-10)
26.J&R Auto Chev 10.973 (8-14-10) @ 126.15
27.Colin loydd 11.04 @ 125
28.eds04MAX 11.04 @ 124
29.MadMaxRacing 11.09 @ 123.14
30.JoshH 11.13 @ 123.49 (4-10-10)
31.HazMax 11.16 @ 124.48
32.estelly 11.2 @ 125.8 (5-8-10)
33.Matt Moon 11.2 @123
34.Newly 11.24 (4-9-10) @ 125.6 (6-11-10)
35.Micheal Tomac 11.24 @ 120
36.IBDMAX'IN 11.255 @ 124.77
37.Builtlngbd 11.30 @ 123.15 (8-21-10)
38.Diesel power 11.3 @ 123
39.jneal 11.301 @ 121.32
40.MaxPowerLB7 11.31 @ 122
41.winston 11.41 @ 120
42.Delong 11.42 @ 119.50 (8-28-10)
43.timLB703 11.47 @ 124 (CCLB Dually)
44.MarkVentling 11.506 @ 117.32 (10-3-09)
45.jpowel29 11.51 @ 121.8
46.Coalburner 11.53 @ 119
47.ripmf666 11.53 @ 116.92
48.Jerimiah M 11.539 @ 118.73 (4-10-10)
49.DuraDudz 11.55 @ 122
50.Fidel 11.595 @ 113.0 (8-7-10)

The trucks in RED are EFI-Live tuned, the other trucks not in Red may be EFI-Live tuned, I am not sure.

Blue trucks are TTS tuned

So if you get rid of the two Bank's trucks, and re-check the list you will probably find that 90% of the fastest 50 trucks are all tuned by EFI-LIVE.

So call me a skeptic when you tell me that TTS has any advantage when someone who knows how to use EFI-LIVE is at any disadvantage ?

;)
 
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Akdiesel

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GMC_2002_Dmax said:
Jess,

Steve has claimed for years that he has some table or tables that is the Holy Grail of tuning tables.

If you look at the list of trucks running 9's, 10's, 11's they tuned by EFI-Live for the most part.

Dmax Quick 50

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.Banks Rail 7.17 @ 181.08
2.Banks Sidewinder Type-D 7.72 @ 179
3.Dirtymax 8.82 @ 150.42 (7-24-10)
4.N20 Dmax 9.70 @ 129.47 (broke innercooler boot before the finish)
5.Max'd Out Rob 9.71 @ 140.96 (4-11-10)
6.Mike Woods Dmax Mustang 9.717 @ 147.88
7.Extreme Prejudice 9.87 (7-10-10) @ 146.13 (5-15-10)
8.Orange Crush 9.87 @ 139
9.Mika 9.897 (8-29-10) @ 138.70 (8-14-10)
10.Sweetdiesel 10.286 @ 144.09 (9-3-10)
11.Nasty Girl 10.35 @ 131
12.BadDmax 10.43 @ 132.31
13.J&R Auto GMC 10.465 (8-14-10) @ 131.38
14.Stingpuller 10.47 @ 131.75
15.Casper 10.59 @ 128
16.White Out 10.703 @ 130.39 (8-27-10)
17.Camomax 10.71 @ 130.54 (5-26-10)
18.Duramini2001 10.72 @ 138.566 (5-15-10)
19.Rhall 10.72 @ 128.0
20.OSUBeaver 10.73 (8-21-10) @ 127.62 (7-10-10)
21.02Bigstrokin 10.732 @ 129.59 (9-8-10)
22.Othrgrl 10.74 @ 135.94 (6-19-10)
23.NolanW 10.85 (9-3-10) @ 125.31 (7-24-10)
24.NLDP 10.85 @ 123
25.Rush/Big Bird/Kelly Froese 10.90 @ 129 (8-14-10)
26.J&R Auto Chev 10.973 (8-14-10) @ 126.15
27.Colin loydd 11.04 @ 125
28.eds04MAX 11.04 @ 124
29.MadMaxRacing 11.09 @ 123.14
30.JoshH 11.13 @ 123.49 (4-10-10)
31.HazMax 11.16 @ 124.48
32.estelly 11.2 @ 125.8 (5-8-10)
33.Matt Moon 11.2 @123
34.Newly 11.24 (4-9-10) @ 125.6 (6-11-10)
35.Micheal Tomac 11.24 @ 120
36.IBDMAX'IN 11.255 @ 124.77
37.Builtlngbd 11.30 @ 123.15 (8-21-10)
38.Diesel power 11.3 @ 123
39.jneal 11.301 @ 121.32
40.MaxPowerLB7 11.31 @ 122
41.winston 11.41 @ 120
42.Delong 11.42 @ 119.50 (8-28-10)
43.timLB703 11.47 @ 124 (CCLB Dually)
44.MarkVentling 11.506 @ 117.32 (10-3-09)
45.jpowel29 11.51 @ 121.8
46.Coalburner 11.53 @ 119
47.ripmf666 11.53 @ 116.92
48.Jerimiah M 11.539 @ 118.73 (4-10-10)
49.DuraDudz 11.55 @ 122
50.Fidel 11.595 @ 113.0 (8-7-10)
The trucks in RED are EFI-Live tuned, the other trucks not in Red may be EFI-Live tuned, I am not sure.

Blue trucks are TTS tuned

So if you get rid of the two Bank's trucks, and re-check the list you will probably find that 90% of the fastest 50 trucks are all tuned by EFI-LIVE.

So call me a skeptic when you tell me that TTS has any advantage when someone who knows how to use EFI-LIVE is at any disadvantage ?

;)
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Highlighted more that I know are EFI tuned
 
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Mike L.

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GMC_2002_Dmax said:
Jess,

Steve has claimed for years that he has some table or tables that is the Holy Grail of tuning tables.

If you look at the list of trucks running 9's, 10's, 11's they tuned by EFI-Live for the most part.

Dmax Quick 50

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.Banks Rail 7.17 @ 181.08
2.Banks Sidewinder Type-D 7.72 @ 179
3.Dirtymax 8.82 @ 150.42 (7-24-10)
4.N20 Dmax 9.70 @ 129.47 (broke innercooler boot before the finish)
5.Max'd Out Rob 9.71 @ 140.96 (4-11-10)
6.Mike Woods Dmax Mustang 9.717 @ 147.88
7.Extreme Prejudice 9.87 (7-10-10) @ 146.13 (5-15-10)
8.Orange Crush 9.87 @ 139
9.Mika 9.897 (8-29-10) @ 138.70 (8-14-10)
10.Sweetdiesel 10.286 @ 144.09 (9-3-10)
11.Nasty Girl 10.35 @ 131
12.BadDmax 10.43 @ 132.31
13.J&R Auto GMC 10.465 (8-14-10) @ 131.38
14.Stingpuller 10.47 @ 131.75
15.Casper 10.59 @ 128
16.White Out 10.703 @ 130.39 (8-27-10)
17.Camomax 10.71 @ 130.54 (5-26-10)
18.Duramini2001 10.72 @ 138.566 (5-15-10)
19.Rhall 10.72 @ 128.0
20.OSUBeaver 10.73 (8-21-10) @ 127.62 (7-10-10)
21.02Bigstrokin 10.732 @ 129.59 (9-8-10)
22.Othrgrl 10.74 @ 135.94 (6-19-10)
23.NolanW 10.85 (9-3-10) @ 125.31 (7-24-10)
24.NLDP 10.85 @ 123
25.Rush/Big Bird/Kelly Froese 10.90 @ 129 (8-14-10)
26.J&R Auto Chev 10.973 (8-14-10) @ 126.15
27.Colin loydd 11.04 @ 125
28.eds04MAX 11.04 @ 124
29.MadMaxRacing 11.09 @ 123.14
30.JoshH 11.13 @ 123.49 (4-10-10)
31.HazMax 11.16 @ 124.48
32.estelly 11.2 @ 125.8 (5-8-10)
33.Matt Moon 11.2 @123
34.Newly 11.24 (4-9-10) @ 125.6 (6-11-10)
35.Micheal Tomac 11.24 @ 120
36.IBDMAX'IN 11.255 @ 124.77
37.Builtlngbd 11.30 @ 123.15 (8-21-10)
38.Diesel power 11.3 @ 123
39.jneal 11.301 @ 121.32
40.MaxPowerLB7 11.31 @ 122
41.winston 11.41 @ 120
42.Delong 11.42 @ 119.50 (8-28-10)
43.timLB703 11.47 @ 124 (CCLB Dually)
44.MarkVentling 11.506 @ 117.32 (10-3-09)
45.jpowel29 11.51 @ 121.8
46.Coalburner 11.53 @ 119
47.ripmf666 11.53 @ 116.92
48.Jerimiah M 11.539 @ 118.73 (4-10-10)
49.DuraDudz 11.55 @ 122
50.Fidel 11.595 @ 113.0 (8-7-10)

The trucks in RED are EFI-Live tuned, the other trucks not in Red may be EFI-Live tuned, I am not sure.

Blue trucks are TTS tuned

So if you get rid of the two Bank's trucks, and re-check the list you will probably find that 90% of the fastest 50 trucks are all tuned by EFI-LIVE.

So call me a skeptic when you tell me that TTS has any advantage when someone who knows how to use EFI-LIVE is at any disadvantage ?

;)
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Tony
Like I said before, some people kiss the ground he walks on even when they cannot make more than 2 passes without breaking. Steve's answer to this is that he makes so much power nothing can hold it.:spit:
Steve never did the tuning anyways. Larry with a couple of other rocket scientists he hired allways did it all. This all started in'95 with my SS Impala as a mule. I have meat these guys at my house. They are the brains.
 
Akdiesel

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man Mike you are walking diesel history! I wish I was "experienced/mature" enough to have experienced it since the beginning.
 
JoshH

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bigbird said:
13, 25-27 are. I think 3 is but not 100 percent sure
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Last I heard Dirtymax is running some sort of PPE tuning, but the #6 Mike Woods NX Mustang is running EFILive tuning. I'm pretty sure Johnboy tunes it.
 
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SteveFord said:
Here is the thing....there are alot of people out there taking credit for others testing and hard work and they know who they are. Will it ever end...nope. All this stuff has went from helping each other in the past to it being about business and making money. Kind of the nature of the beast I guess.
To the original poster..you could always try Craigs List and see if it sells.
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there's def not much sharing these days , not sure why other than people getting bashed for thinking outside the box / norm, a lot of key board experts these days , i have wondered if any one is building stuff any more as quite as its been , my threads will start again soon , got a lot of cool idea's for this winter , and as usual most (95 %) will be public . as for the tuning discussions :popcorn: this one is going old school ..................
 
IdahoRob

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I've seen some of the tables Steve uses as he showed me. Similar to efi, but he does have tables that we don't have with efi. Steve is a smart guy and thinks outside of the box and has been doing it for a long time.

Personality's aside, there have been some smart people that have contributed to the dmax performance growth, I'd say he is one of them. Like him or not.
 
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IdahoRob said:
I've seen some of the tables Steve uses as he showed me. Similar to efi, but he does have tables that we don't have with efi.
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But do they give Cole's tuners an edge over EFI Live? i'd think not but i have not seen these tables.... No one doubted that Cole is a very smart indiviual but he is also a _______ (fill in the blank:D)
 
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Subman

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All of the trucks below the mustang that are no yet colored are efi live. I don't think that Steve tunes much of anything newer than the LB7's either. Now what I'd really love to see is who actually tunes what, and what engine it runs? That would be a great addition to the quick 50 list.:thumb:
 
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IdahoRob

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All I'll say is that I wish I had some of the tables that I saw.

Why does posting thoughts on this forum seem to get countered by certain people, even though spoken from real world experience and not internet theory's?
 
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x MadMAX DIESEL

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Subman said:
. Now what I'd really love to see is who actually tunes what? That would be a great addition to the quick 50 list.:thumb:
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I'd like to see that too, I think I read somewhere that about a 1/4 of them are D/A tuned :confused: Curious

Rob, I'm sure I speak for others aswell. I/we appreciatte any input from anybody as long as its for the relivent
 
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