2014 Camaro SS LML Build Thread

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About time GM did that. But does the starter still fit?
Its very close if it does I don't think it'll be removable with the mount in place. I'll measure it out tonight. I thought I had a spare starter kicking around but can't find it.

Is there such thing as a smaller starter available for the duramax?
 

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Its very close if it does I don't think it'll be removable with the mount in place. I'll measure it out tonight. I thought I had a spare starter kicking around but can't find it.

Is there such thing as a smaller starter available for the duramax?
na, they are all the same size.
 
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I remember there were some gear reduction starters available at one time. The starter itself a touch larger than the solenoid. That may fit with the closer mount.

Like this one:

Test fit the OEM and see first, but this may be an option....
 
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Alright so tonight I have even more great news.

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Measured the starter on the old square body and its 8 inches long, I've got 9 inches in the car. So might even be able to r n r it with the mount in place.

Then I decide hey why not try the trans mission cross member.

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And it fits like a glove. Heck even the oil pan looks pretty good, gonna cut about an inch off it. But don't forget I moved that crossmember on the subframe back, there a video of what i did on the YouTube channel I put a link on the first post of this thread.

So now I'm just taking some time to mock every little thing up so next time it comes out it stays out untill final install.
 

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Hood is so close I wanna just slam it closed and forget it lol, but seriously it's very close and to keep with the goal of this car (making it even bit as factory as possible) ill just do what GM does when the hood is too close and put a cowl on it hahah

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Its very close if it does I don't think it'll be removable with the mount in place. I'll measure it out tonight. I thought I had a spare starter kicking around but can't find it.

Is there such thing as a smaller starter available for the duramax?
na, they are all the same size.
I ordered one from Amazon and it seemed shorter but I didn’t actually measure it.
I'm almost 100% positive that the LML starter is a little bit shorter than the earlier trucks.
 
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I'm almost 100% positive that the LML starter is a little bit shorter than the earlier trucks.
wow you are right! i coulda swore i changed my dads 15 for an older model with no difference in length but must not have. the LML starter is for sure shorter, napa pictures confirm that, just not sure how much. looks like 1-2"
 
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Right on! I'll have to order a lml starter then. Aside from the hood, (which is off a 2010 not a 2014 so the cowl is a little smaller) everything is really fitting nice together. Trans dip stick clears good. Accessories looks good. I trimmed down the lml t Stat housing and it's gonna be perfect.

One thing I'm gonna do is shave off a little bit on the engine mounts just where they mount on. The lml is a little wider so the mount are stressed when bolted tight. Should be an easy mod and I'll be happy cause I can keep the factory mounts.

Also I measured and mocked up original turbo, it looks like it would fit. But the cowl would need to be modified and the down pipe would be super skinny and almost would touch wiring/brake lines on the firewall.
 

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Might look into a ZL1 hood. I know they are way different and looks to have more room than what you have on it now.
Thanks, I've been looking a little. Them dang things are carbon fiber and worth alot haha.

I see theres lots of aftermarket hoods available so hopefully I find one I like. I'm thinking some hood vents would look good.
 

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Original plan was to go with twin turbos to overcome firewall clearance issues. But with the motor bolted in with the factory mounts there was enough room for up pipes and down pipe. Had to do a small bit of "clearancing" with the bottle jack on the bottom of the wiper cowl.


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So since it all fits I think I just gotta keep factory turbo.


I've got another car that's needs an engine. I'll save the turbos for it. Lol.
 
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After modifications to the stock oil pan my capacity was way down. I could've winged out the sides of the lower pan but I wasn't happy with how it was turning out.

So I decided to tackle a sheet metal pan. Yes it's heavy lol, I went with 1/4 inch for the main structure so that when I'm driving with the suspension low I don't gotta worry about it. Then it's covered in with 14 ga where ever I wasn't worried.

So here's some some pics, and I'm still waiting on pistons. Been two months now...

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Interesting. So you're back up to 10qt, or close? Does the stock pickup still fit properly, or did you have to modify it, too?
 

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Interesting. So you're back up to 10qt, or close? Does the stock pickup still fit properly, or did you have to modify it, too?
Stock pick up had to be shortened.

For capacity my bottom section holds 7 litres plus the kick out and the top part. Haven't measured it out in liquid yet.

The stock pan measures out at 6.5 litres in just the lower pan.

I should have for sure 10 litres or more. I'm waiting on new dip stick so I can measure exactly where oil level is supposed to be in reference to the old pan.
 

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I am loving this build!
If I were to do a similar build, is there a way to use a dry sump oil pan and avoid the sub frame modifications (bigger cowl or factory ride height)?
 

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