I got Ripped Off! I need your Help!

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AthenaLMM

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Does anybody actually read anymore :eek:
Apparently not. This whole thread definitely makes me feel a little better about some of the issues I've been having with my truck. Nothing major, just minor annoyances. I'm eager to find out how this problem concludes!
 

ZeroGravity58

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I don't understand why the OP didn't just fix what was wrong with the original motor...I thought I read somewhere about head gaskets.
 

2004LB7

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Exactly, unless he ruined the block I don't see why he would be going through this mess looking for another engine
 

gmduramax

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If this is referring to me, I most definitely read it all and still annoyed....

Just everyone giving him a hard time after it was resolved.

The guy was frustrated and was a dick. He realized it and everyone went their way. He’s asking for help identifying the engine.
 

TheBac

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Hey guys, it's ok. I admit I jumped the gun based on his tone and username (thought he was trolling us). He's frustrated. I don't blame him.
I appreciate you all having my back, but it's all water under the bridge now. I just hope he's able to resolve the transaction.
IMO, that engine doesn't look like it's been run in a good long time. Oil the cylinders you can and retry the compression test. 180/200 is low.
 

Chevy1925

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We are done beating a dead horse guys, just as Anthony stated, dude came back and manned up where he was wrong.

I frankly don’t see the point in this thread but we will let it run. If the shop was going to give back his money or make the engine right, it would have happen at this point. Only thing left is to go to court. Doing a compression test and any other work or dismantling is not going to help the court case any more than the pics he had prior.

OP, good luck.
 

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Look, this guy has apologized. Lets move on!!! A positive attitude will accomplish more then negativity.
 

036.6turbo

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Get the VIN off of the motor, as had been said. We'll run through GM's system, we can tell what milage was on the donor truck, the last time it was in a GM shop.

As I was typing the last post, I got an email from FL company. They gave me only the last 8 of the VIN....

2F137009

I am not VIN savvy, but is this information useful at all in helping me pull information on this truck? A quick lookup only tells me that it came from a 2002 truck.

Truck was old new out of Biloxi MS From Dees Chevy Olds in 10/18/2001, as far as the GM history tells, it lived most of its life in North Carolina, but it didn't log a visit to a GM dealership after 2005. That was at
COLLINS CHEVROLET BUICK GMC CADILLAC
2300 ROCKFORD ST
MOUNT AIRY NC 27030-5396
The truck had 27,609 miles on it then. Very odd for an LB7 to not be back in for injectors under the GM special policy, but not implausible.

Sorry I couldn't be more help.

Vehicle Information
VIN: 1GCJK33142F137009 Model: CK35943-2002 SILVERADO 3500 4WD CREW CAB
Service Contract: No Branded Title: No Warranty Block: No PDI Status: No
Order Type: 60 - RETAIL - SOLD
Field Actions: 0 Open

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Vehicle Information
VIN: 1GCJK33142F137009 Model: CK35943-2002 SILVERADO 3500 4WD CREW CAB
Service Contract: No Branded Title: No Warranty Block: No PDI Status: No
Order Type: 60 - RETAIL - SOLD
Field Actions: 0 Open


Job Card Date: 08/29/2005 Job Card Number: 109142
Repair Service Agent: 114000 Odometer Reading: 27,609 MI
COLLINS CHEVROLET BUICK GMC CADILLA
2300 ROCKFORD ST
MOUNT AIRY NC 27030-5396
3367899011 Authorization Code:

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Process Date:
09/02/2005
Transaction Type:
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Customer Complaint Code:
0000-Converted Claim
Job Card Line #: 1 Transaction Adjustment: Cause Code: 0000-Converted Claims
Labour Op V1242-04007 - Inspect and Replace Tailgate Support Cables inc. Hinge Replacement if Necessary
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Job Card Date: 08/29/2005 Job Card Number: 109142
Repair Service Agent: 114000 Odometer Reading: 27,609 MI
COLLINS CHEVROLET BUICK GMC CADILLA
2300 ROCKFORD ST
MOUNT AIRY NC 27030-5396
3367899011 Authorization Code:

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Process Date:
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Transaction Type:
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Labour Op V1380-05546 - Replace Fuel Filter
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Job Card Date: 05/06/2003 Job Card Number: 017365
Repair Service Agent: 168599 Odometer Reading: 12,886 MI
FOWLER CHEVROLET, LLC
201 NEWSOME RD
KING NC 27021-0000
3369835181 Authorization Code:

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Process Date:
05/09/2003
Transaction Type:
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Customer Complaint Code:
0000-Converted Claim
Job Card Line #: 1 Transaction Adjustment: Cause Code: 0000-Converted Claims
Labour Op N1720-Fuse Replacement
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Job Card Date: 04/09/2002 Job Card Number: 081482
Repair Service Agent: 114000 Odometer Reading: 2,724 MI
COLLINS CHEVROLET BUICK GMC CADILLA
2300 ROCKFORD ST
MOUNT AIRY NC 27030-5396
3367899011 Authorization Code: E

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Process Date:
05/24/2002
Transaction Type:
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Customer Complaint Code:
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Job Card Line #: 1 Transaction Adjustment: Cause Code: 0000-Converted Claims
Labour Op K5365-Transmission Control Module Replacement
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Job Card Date: 10/18/2001 Job Card Number: A37009
Repair Service Agent: 114340 Odometer Reading: 0 MI
DEES CHEVY-OLDS
130 MAIN ST
BILOXI MS 39530-4316
2284322691 Authorization Code:

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Process Date:
10/23/2001
Transaction Type:
ZPDI----Pre-Delivery Inspection
Transaction Expense Category:

Customer Complaint Code:
0000-Converted Claim
Job Card Line #: 1 Transaction Adjustment: Cause Code: 0000-Converted Claims
Labour Op Z7000-Pre-Delivery Inspection - Base Time
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036.6turbo

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picture of the truck it came out of....

Thats IF this is the actual vin of the truck it came out of....at this point I've been lied to so much, who knows what truths are being told.

This truck does jive with the build sheet, but as you said, who knows if they came you the actual VIN?

Vehicle Information
VIN: 1GCJK33142F137009 Model: CK35943-2002 SILVERADO 3500 4WD CREW CAB
Service Contract: No Branded Title: No Warranty Block: No PDI Status: No
Order Type: 60 - RETAIL - SOLD
Field Actions: 0 Open


Vehicle Build
Model: CK35943-2002 SILVERADO 3500 4WD CREW CAB Order Number: DPGFQ4
Gross Vehicle Weight: 5,176 Build Date: 10/18/2001
Build Plant: F




Option Codes
*IVH is not the definitive source of GM Vehicle RPO information and is intended for service reference only. Should there be any questions about the vehicle's original build or RPO information please refer to the original vehicle invoice or window sticker.

1SC - LT DECOR INCLUDES: * AIR CONDITIONING WITH AIR FILTRATION SYSTEM * ISRV MIRROR W/COMPASS & TEMP * REAR WINDOW DEFOGGER * DEEP TINT GLASS * PUSHBUTTON TRANSFER CASE * FRONT FOG LAMPS * AM/FM STEREO W/CASSETTE & CD * ELECTRONIC SPEED CONTROL * POWER LOCKS & WINDOWS * REMOTE KEYLESS ENTRY WITH CONTENT THEFT ALARM * LEATHER WRAPPED STEERING WHL * BRIGHT WHEEL TRIM * 6-WAY POWER HEATED BUCKET SEATS W/FRNT LEATHER SEATING SURFACES & DRIVER MEMORY * ONSTAR COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM INCL 1YR SAFE & SOUND PLAN UNIT PRODUCED WITHOUT DUAL PWR HEATED OSRV MIRRORS 1SZ - PREFERRED EQUIPMENT SAVINGS
50U - SUMMIT WHITE/MED CHARCOAL GRAY 522 - TAN CUSTOM LEATHER TRIM
52I - TAN INTERIOR TRIM 6GL - FRONT SPRING
7GL - FRONT SPRING A31 - POWER WINDOWS
AG1 - SIX-WAY POWER DRIVER SEAT AG2 - 6-WAY POWER DRIVER & PASS SEATS
AJ1 - DEEP TINTED GLASS AM7 - FOLDING REAR SEAT
AN3 - FRONT BUCKETS WITH POWER ADJ. AU0 - KEYLESS REMOTE DOOR LOCK AND TRUNK OPENER
AU3 - POWER DOOR LOCK SYSTEM B30 - WHEELHOUSING & FLOOR CARPETING
B32 - FRONT COLOR-KEYED FLOOR MATS B33 - REAR COLOR KEYED FLOOR MATS
B71 - WHEEL OPENING FLARES C49 - ELECTRIC REAR WINDOW DEFOGGER
C68 - AUTOMATIC CLIMATE CONTROL C7W - GVW RATING - 11,400 LBS
CMD - ASSEMBLY PLANT - FLINT, MI D07 - CUSTOM FRONT FLOOR CONSOLE
DF5 - INT R/V MIRROR, LIGHT SENSITIVE W/OUTSIDE TEMP & COMPASS DK6 - OVERHEAD CONSOLE
DL8 - OSRV DUAL POWER HEATED MIRRORS E63 - FLEETSIDE BODY
FE9 - FEDERAL/NY/MA/ME/VT EMISSIONS FT2 - ARM TORS BAR SPRING ADJ
FT3 - ARM TORS BAR SPRING ADJ G80 - LOCKING DIFFERENTIAL-REAR AXLE
GT4 - REAR AXLE - 3.73 RATIO HVY - IDEN 2 INCH BODY RAISE,HD MODEL
JH7 - 4 WHL PWR DISC BRAKES,12000 LBS K05 - ENGINE BLOCK HEATER
K34 - CRUISE CONTROL K47 - HIGH CAPACITY AIR CLEANER
K68 - 105 AMP DELCOTRON GENERATOR KC4 - ENGINE OIL COOLING SYSTEM
KNP - HD AUX TRANSMISSION COOLING SYS KUP - THROTTLE CONTROL ELECTRONIC
LB7 - DURAMAX DIESEL 6600 V8 ENGINE (INCLUDES 5 YEAR/100,000 MILE ENGINE LIMITED WARRANTY- -SEE DEALER FOR DETAILS) M74 - ALLISON 5 SPD AUTOMATIC TRANS
NF2 - FEDERAL EMISSION SYSTEM NP1 - ELECTRONIC SHIFT TRANSFER CASE
NP5 - LEATHER WRAPPED STEERING WHEEL NZZ - OFF-ROAD SKID PLATE PACKAGE
P06 - WHEEL TRIM RINGS PCM - ELECTRICAL CONVENIENCE PACKAGE
PDD - COLOR-KEYED CARPET R8A - LAM INVOICE EXEMPTIONS
R9Z - POMS EXPEDITE-SOLD ORDERS SLL - SOLD ORDERS
T96 - FRONT FOG LAMPS TQ3 - BATTERY 770 CCA (DUAL)
UE1 - ONSTAR COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM INCL 1 YR SAFE & SOUND PLAN UP0 - AM/FM STEREO W/CASS & CD PLAYER (REPLACES RADIO IN OPTION PKG)
UQ3 - ENHANCED AUDIO SPEAKERS UY2 - CAMPER/5TH WHEEL TRAILER WIRING PROVISIONS
UY7 - HD 7-LEAD TRAIL. WIRING HARNESS V10 - COLD-CLIMATE PACKAGE
V22 - DELUXE FRONT APPEARANCE PKG. V73 - STATEMENT OF VEHICLE CERT.-U.S. /CANADA
VB3 - CHROME REAR STEP BUMPER VC0 - NOISE CONTROL INFORMATION LABEL
VG3 - FRONT DELUXE CHROMED BUMPER VR4 - WEIGHT DISTRIB. PLATFORM HITCH
VXS - COMPLETE VEHICLE LABEL X88 - CHEVROLET CONVERSION
XEF - LT215/85R16E OOR BW FRONT/REAR YD3 - BASE EQUIP FOR SCH GVW PL-FT AX
YD6 - BASE REAR SPRING YE9 - SILVERADO
YEF - TIRE REAR LT215/85R16/E BW R/PE ST TL OOR Z82 - TRAILERING SPECIAL EQUIPMENT INCLUDES: * TRAILER HITCH PLATFORM
Z85 - HEAVY DUTY SUSPENSION ZEF - LT215/85R16/E BW SPARE
ZY1 - SOLID PAINT
 

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Anyone else annoyed by this post.... dude buys junk yard engine without seeing it in person, than join’s DD forum and wants help and acts like Jerk and that we owe him something..:confused: Maybe should have joined forum first and asked for advice....

Just my :2cents:

I don't know why he's trying to give the company a chance to make it right. If they ****ed you in the beginning they will **** you in the end. Call your bank, file a chargeback, problem solved.
 

Goad

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I somehow missed all the updates since my last post. Sorry I have been absent from replying.

Here is where I am at....

They have agreed to give me a full refund, but I have to ship it back on my dime. I called UPS freight and over the phone they quoted me $5,135 (holy shit!) ...she then explained it was probably shipped to me with a highly discounted rate from a ups freight account. I have a regular UPS account I ship stuff from my business and I logged in and was able to get a quote of $1,284 (still stupidly high)

So next option is to go to my local diesel mechanic and have him give me a quote to remove the heads and remove the stuck glow plugs and repair the glow plug ports, then pass this onto the FL company to see if they will finally be convinced its junk and not worth repairing.

Their argument about the low compression test is a cold cranking compression test is not a valid test and will run low. Obviously this is a bullshit cop out on their part.

Since they still wont give me the full vin (I know it was provided above, but they wont give it directly to me) ...I have a feeling that it's not the actual vin.

I see everyone here demanding I charge it back on my credit card through my bank. I have called my bank and have 60 days to dispute it. I see this has a last resort because it will just delay the resolution of this transaction holding my money up in the bank. I have a few other things I'd like to try before going that route.


The reason I did not fix my original motor is because I melted the head and blew the head gaskets. I had the head repaired and replaced the head gaskets. After putting it all back together it still ran like shit and had no boost. I did a compression test and had numbers all over the place from 150 to 300. Also there was coolant in the cylinder again of where I had the head gasket failure. I am not sure about the extent of the damage done when this head gasket failed. It's possible I cracked the block in the process too. I do not plan on owning this truck for much longer so investing into a complete rebuild was not logical. Attached is a before/after image of the head that I melted and the repair that was done.
 

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Goad

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This truck does jive with the build sheet, but as you said, who knows if they came you the actual VIN?

Can you explain?

Are you saying that the build sheet for the VIN doesn't match what you are seeing in the pictures of the engine I have posted? If so, what are you seeing that could help my case they have given me a different vin?
 

036.6turbo

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Can you explain?

Are you saying that the build sheet for the VIN doesn't match what you are seeing in the pictures of the engine I have posted? If so, what are you seeing that could help my case they have given me a different vin?

No, what I was saying was that the picture of the truck you showed, the one that was hit in the front? That photo was consistent with the build sheet for the truck you listed the last eight digits VIN.

This VIN;
https://www.duramaxdiesels.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1149435&postcount=56

And this truck;
https://www.duramaxdiesels.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1149457&postcount=67

Coincide with one another.

The build sheet for the VIN you supplied in post 56 of this thread, is consistent with the picture of the truck you posted in post 67 of this thread.
 

Goad

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No, what I was saying was that the picture of the truck you showed, the one that was hit in the front? That photo was consistent with the build sheet for the truck you listed the last eight digits VIN.

This VIN;
https://www.duramaxdiesels.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1149435&postcount=56

And this truck;
https://www.duramaxdiesels.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1149457&postcount=67

Coincide with one another.

The build sheet for the VIN you supplied in post 56 of this thread, is consistent with the picture of the truck you posted in post 67 of this thread.

The picture of the truck I posted is what I took from this auction page:
https://autoauctionspot.com/chevrolet/silverado/2002-1GCJK33142F137009.html
 

2004LB7

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Ok, so if the engine is from an 02 and you asked for an 04 wouldn't that be enough for them to have to take it back? As we know there are a number of differences between them

I know its not that much to swap over all the the parts to make it work with an 04 but with the rusted bolts it may not be possible
 
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