Dynoing the Nira ECM

[Harbin_22]

don't know what power to speed your using , but I know that a 1900 lbs Super comp dragster with a 565 BBC need around 1050 to run that fast.

So according to your number from the 4.72@141 you are making mid 500's from MPH and mid 600's from ET

 

[Stingpuller]

Time slip

His 4.70 time slip is bogus! His pile didn't run a 2.80 in the 330'!!! Not at no 141! You would need in the high 160's for that. He can't run that in the 1/4. I run 4.71 with a 3.08 330 At 151. It's still the old Greg. Lol

 

[COMP461]

It on DragRace central for all to see , but just as John didn't have a 1.85 , well 1.81 light , you are wrong and a bitter small person who is threatened and upset I get help and funding.

I guess NHRA is in on it as well, You and you buddy will not put my time on the top 50 because its all a conspiracy

http://dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=292354&Filter=Year2014#indextop

I have already said the car was only under full nitrous power for 4 seconds before it spit water on me and I peddled it , and shut off the nitrous all together. It was on a mid 4.50 pass that would have been mid 150's this car should back half 2.40 or so , so you do the math


NOBLE, Okla. - Final order after 3 rounds of qualifying in Sunset RaceCraft Top Dragster at the NHRA Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series, South Central Division, Thunder in the Heartland at Thunder Valley Raceway Park:
Psn---Num-Driver, Home Town, Car Type---------------Qual-ET--Qual-Spd-Top Spd

1 4028 David Sheetz, Lake Jackson TX, Spitzer-Chevy 6.219 219.83 223.10
2 453A Bradley Thompson, Vernon TX, Monden-Chevy 6.280 220.21 220.21
3 437 Jenifer White, Conroe TX, Spitzer-Chevy 6.288 211.41 211.41
4 4331 Lee Ramey, Marlow OK, Stephens-Chevy 6.350 215.15 217.28
5 4653 Larry Eidson, Mineral Wells TX, TNT-Chevy 6.390 211.01 211.01
6 4142 James Ogden, League City TX, Bos-Chevy 6.411 209.64 209.64
7 51 Jeff Koron, Hays KS, Undercover-Chevy 6.420 212.06 212.06
8 440M Mallori Rodgers, McAlester OK, Monden-Chevy 6.500 203.48 203.71
9 5660 Brad Basgall, Hays KS, Undercover-Chevy 6.533 206.61 206.61
10 45 Wade Pennington, Ada OK, Monden-Chevy 6.539 225.96 225.96
11 400K Nash Keen, Shawnee OK, Sherrill-Chevy 6.566 203.34 204.22
12 53 Larry Piper, Wamego KS, Racecraft-Chevy 6.573 205.38 207.99
13 5567 Matt Driskell, Wellsville KS, Mullis-Chevy 6.605 200.26 200.26
14 491C Mario Boesch, Kenner LA, Undercover-Chevy 6.619 205.52 205.52
15 4110 Cody Moore, Collinsville OK, TNT-Chevy 6.641 202.38 202.38
16 578M Mike Secrest, Wichita KS, Jim White-Chevy 6.662 198.98 198.98
17 428G Rodney Frazier, Sand Springs OK, Worthy-Chevy 6.732 194.21 194.21
18 4768 Jimmy Arabie, Baytown TX, Bos-Chevy 6.773 195.48 195.48
19 594T Todd Piper, Wamego KS, Racecraft-Chevy 6.791 192.34 192.34
20 5790 J.R. Lobner, Gardner KS, Mullis-Chevy 6.808 196.85 196.85
21 5822 John Lobner, Desoto KS, Mullis-Chevy 6.813 199.68 199.68
22 4067 Dave Smith, Healdton OK, Monden-Chevy 6.831 196.54 196.89
23 437M Mike Weaver, Highlands TX, TNT-Chevy 6.873 195.14 195.69
24 4551 Ronald Gibson, Norman OK, TNT-Chevy 6.883 195.52 195.52
25 4760 Chris Gulitti, Spring TX, American-Chevy 6.884 192.18 192.18
26 414 Bob Alberty Jr., Tulsa OK, Monden-Chevy 6.900 192.18 192.18
27 4730 Neil Reid, Oklahoma City OK, Monden-Chevy 6.936 199.77 199.77
28 409G Jerry Gitthens, Choctaw OK, Monden-Chevy 6.967 190.39 190.39
29 413 Rickey Tuter, Broken Arrow TX, BridgeWater-Che 6.980 192.71 193.63
30 4962 Scott Barker, Pauls Valley OK, American-Chevy 7.019 190.92 190.92
31 419X Jerry Story, Norman OK, American-Chevy 7.110 186.29 186.29
32 566V Randy Cruickshank, Littleton CO, M&M-Chevy 7.140 185.60 186.76

------------ Not Qualified ------------

33 4455 William Swann, Carrolton TX, Monden-Chevy 7.145 154.55 154.55
34 453J Dustin Thompson, Vernon TX, Monden-Chevy 7.321 0.00 127.17
35 5649 Rick Wilson, Independence MO, Sherrill-Chevy 7.342 179.85 183.63
36 461 Greg Hogue, Aledo TX, CSRC-Chevy 8.508 161.05 161.05
37 4211 Kevin Ford, Amarillo TX, Undercover-Chevy 11.661 87.61 87.61

 

[COMP461]

Greg, you lie to your friends and I will lie to mine but let's not lie to each other! You know better than him having a 1.85 reaction time. Lol

His 4.70 time slip is bogus! His pile didn't run a 2.80 in the 330'!!! Not at no 141! You would need in the high 160's for that. He can't run that in the 1/4. I run 4.71 with a 3.08 330 At 151. It's still the old Greg. Lol

http://dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=292354&Filter=Year2014#indextop


NOBLE, Okla. - Final order after 3 rounds of qualifying in Sunset RaceCraft Top Dragster at the NHRA Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series, South Central Division, Thunder in the Heartland at Thunder Valley Raceway Park:
Psn---Num-Driver, Home Town, Car Type---------------Qual-ET--Qual-Spd-Top Spd

36 461 Greg Hogue, Aledo TX, CSRC-Chevy 8.508 161.05 161.05



so your 0 for 2 sucks to be so bitter and unprofessional. you are so worried about me that you post on any thread you can, I had to delete you on Facebook . Just go find some hp because I'll find you some where at a track and show you how real drag racers act .

 

[Cknight199]

All I am getting from this thread is Greg is really good at predicting what his times and horsepower "should be".

Wasn't 1000 hp a big deal in like 2008?


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[COMP461]

what you fail to see is the thread is about taking the Nira stand a lone ECM and running a Duramax for the first time. No one has use the Nira on a duramax until now , its was difficult to get all of the timing markers correct and the voltages but the man tuning has spend a great deal of time on Team viewer making it happen. . We now have it done and after a few pulls with a mild tune and no nitrous , on a motor set up to run nitrous , ( no intercooler) it made a 1000 hp on fuel only.
The 1000 hp was at an acceleration rate of 1288 rpms per second.

we made very mild check out pulls to well above 6000 rpms and the motor moves air up there , it was not until we loaded the Exergy 12mm stroker pumps that we found a problem in the idler pulley. We pitched a belt and this damaged the belt . After that belt was damaged and I didn't have another in the trailer, and once the pumps started flow 50+ % of fuel it would pitch a belt just at the motor got on the pipe good at about 4700 . I plan on stalling this motor 5000 to 5200 and shifting at 5700 to 5800 and going thru the traps at 6200.


I know a few of you want to get on a band wagon and post ever time I get on here. I could care less , I have been racing and doing engine development work on high performance engines for 30+ years and racing diesel for over 10. My background is why people and company's help me. To the bystander that reads this and just shake there heads at these knuckleheads , there are a few that are green with envy at the money and help I get and continue to get. The others are band wagon and nut swingers that want to look like they are relevant.

and for a laugh and a little bit of my relevant's here is me beating on a motor 30 years ago on a dyno

 

[Dave c]

I have spent 3 years trying to make the ECD 16 ECM work, two of the best EFI live tuners tried . , it's just will not work with the acceleration rates and RPM I need to make my engine combination work. At 1900 lbs the car requires a lot different power then from a heavy truck

The aftermarket route fixes 100% of the problems with the car. I went directly to EFI live and they said they were a year or so out on this kind of stand a lone tuning , They suggested I go to either borsch motorsports or Nira until them.

I now have some of the best people on this program , Exergy engineers answered the questions I have been asking for years in the first 30 min conversation.

I have one of the best tuners out there on stand a lone systems in 3 pulls on the dyno we were at a 1000 hp and climbing like crazy before the belt problem, This motor will make peak power in mid 5000 rpm range and carry that power high in the 6000 range

my new motor is ultra light 67 lbs. of rotating weight removed from flywheel to harmonic balancer . My current motor is 57 lbs lighter

Your a bit slow. Wade Moody and his tuner johnboy made the edc 16 work make way more power and did it in a heavy truck with all industrial fuel equipment!

 

[matt78]

Man ,you talk alot of shit. Run that bitch at the world finals if it is that bad ass you should be the talk of the town. If not shut the **** up.

 

[COMP461]

Man ,you talk alot of shit. Run that bitch at the world finals if it is that bad ass you should be the talk of the town. If not shut the **** up.

I will be at the world finals in Pomona in November 12 thru the 15 running in top dragster or if not I have a great throttle stop now so it will be super comp

 

[CaptPhil]

http://dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=292354&Filter=Year2014#indextop

If anything, this shows how badass Robinson's car is. with a 60' like that and still running solidly over 200mph.

 

[Mike L.]

Your a bit slow. Wade Moody and his tuner johnboy made the edc 16 work make way more power and did it in a heavy truck with all industrial fuel equipment!

cat fight.

 

[x MadMAX DIESEL]

What happned to Johnboy, I havent seen him post in forever

 

[TheBac]

What happned to Johnboy, I havent seen him post in forever

IMO, he got tired of crap like this. The guy just likes to make things go fast or win pulls.



Hogue thinking he "won" with a 10.81 against Robinson. Stuff like that just makes me shake my head.

 

[B1 596]

I could care less about all the drama....Greg what facts can you disclose about the Edelbrock heads ? They were mentioned some time ago and we never heard anything about them again till this post....

 

[TQMONSTR]

I've seen and been on a chassis dyno. I've seen an engine dyno. I think they have transmission dynos as well. Could someone post a video or explain to me how you dyno an ECM? I googled it and didn't find anything...

 

[malibu795]

I've seen and been on a chassis dyno. I've seen an engine dyno. I think they have transmission dynos as well. Could someone post a video or explain to me how you dyno an ECM? I googled it and didn't find anything...

Yes there are transmission dynos.. Used them before..

The rest

 

[COMP461]

I could care less about all the drama....Greg what facts can you disclose about the Edelbrock heads ? They were mentioned some time ago and we never heard anything about them again till this post....

I have seen the prototype digital design. I have spent a lot of time lobbying for this head . My argument was that this head needed to have the versatility to be ported to over 400+ CFM but be able to be use as a stock replacement for a dealership on a stone stock work truck. I believe the market for any heads should be 95 % factor replacement and 5 % racers, This new heads will fill that bill. It will be around the cost of a stock casting and flow close to 275 as cast .
Edelbrock wants to do this as a permanent mold heads . Permanent mold heads will be many times stronger and denser then what is out there now. The permanent mold process is 10 times as expensive to gear up for production but its makes a head many times stronger and in the long run less expensive to produce Chris Franks at Frankenstein racing heads is a extreme high end design shop. Designing heads for many manufactory , to include the new Cadillac ATS V 2.0 turbo and CTS V turbo.

I have seen 390 cfm on the Brodix water heads with Chris's design and 290+ CFM from stock castings. I have a set of shaved core Brodix castings waiting on Chris to finish for my car . there are essentially half solid and half water around the exhaust port and seat.

here is a few pictures , these are ones allowed by Chris , as his shop is as close to being a secret shop as you will find . The 500 inch and 400 inch Pro Stock heads are locked in Gun safes when not in play

a picture inside the shop

here is the highest flowing LS head on the planet it was designed and build from a solid chunk of aluminum it flows 535 cfm

here is what it started at . I have a set of billets there for my DuraRat heads once Chris get a little time

 

[x MadMAX DIESEL]

So those perma mold heads will be 80,000 dollars lol


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[COMP461]

I'm wanting a good set of heads to go under my killer intake manifold

 

[COMP461]

So those perma mold heads will be 80,000 dollars lol


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no the target is to make a set of casting that will flow 275 cfm ,about the same price as a set of casting from a dealership. This is where the bulk of the heads will be sold, as replacement heads to stock trucks