Eons ago, when I was a wee thing, I was petrified of thunder and lightning... Now it's fascinating. But one of our cats turns into a stone statue any time storms are within 100 miles lol.
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I loved it as a kid. Still love it today. I remember having friends that were scared of it. Couldn't understand why. I remember asking them how could it harm them or do anything other than make a light and noise show. Their answer was always a vague "it's scary". Always baffled me why anyone could not enjoy it
One of my child hood core memories is being scared stiff of a lighting storm at 5-6yo.. Dad came in and we watch it roll through that night. Basically said shouldn't be scared of lighting but always respectful of its power.
Bought a new dryer today as they're on sale..
As if electric isn't confused enough..
It's been my understanding the ground is not counted in the wire strand count.. 12/2(3 wires) 12/3(4 wires) seams with it comes to ranges/dryers... It's not??
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Anyways
Going to feed my 10/3 dryer plug with 8/2 wire from a 30A 2 pole breaker.
IMO pending the length of the run.. 10ga is too small for a 30A system. But seams society says instead of going one size bigger we'll add another wire??
As if electric isn't confused enough..
It's been my understanding the ground is not counted in the wire strand count.. 12/2(3 wires) 12/3(4 wires) seams with it comes to ranges/dryers... It's not??
?Anyways
Going to feed my 10/3 dryer plug with 8/2 wire from a 30A 2 pole breaker.
IMO pending the length of the run.. 10ga is too small for a 30A system. But seams society says instead of going one size bigger we'll add another wire??
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I would be surprised if your dryer didn't have a separate ground and neutral connection. Most older dryers (and ovens) had bonded ground/neutral connection right at the cord connection. But from my understanding this is not code anymore. In addition to the safety concerns, it can create ground loops with the bonding in the main panelBought a new dryer today as they're on sale..
As if electric isn't confused enough..
It's been my understanding the ground is not counted in the wire strand count.. 12/2(3 wires) 12/3(4 wires) seams with it comes to ranges/dryers... It's not??
Anyways
Going to feed my 10/3 dryer plug with 8/2 wire from a 30A 2 pole breaker.
IMO pending the length of the run.. 10ga is too small for a 30A system. But seams society says instead of going one size bigger we'll add another wire??
But the newer ones almost always come with a means to bond the ground to neutral and use the cord with two hots and a ground for grandfathered homes
The naming of cable, such as 10/3 normally doesn't include the ground in the numbering as it's assumed to always exist. But there is no code or regulation for this so depending on brand it can vary. Some will actually say "with ground". While others add it to the numbering. Always good to read the description or inspect the cable before hand
Dryer is capable of 10/2 or 10/3 hook up.
Yes Ground loops can easily cause problems. Adding a second return line whether one calls it a ground or neutral.. doesn't help the situation ..
Seams code after 96 they're supposed to be 10/3 power supply. Yet both the neutral and ground are connected in the main box...
My gripe is stuff isn't labeled consistently... Which can cause problems.
I highly doubt I'll have any problems with my shop dryer.
Yes Ground loops can easily cause problems. Adding a second return line whether one calls it a ground or neutral.. doesn't help the situation ..
Seams code after 96 they're supposed to be 10/3 power supply. Yet both the neutral and ground are connected in the main box...
My gripe is stuff isn't labeled consistently... Which can cause problems.
I highly doubt I'll have any problems with my shop dryer.
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Old 240v dryers just needed 240v, and that’s made from two 120v wires and a ground just for safety. Modern dryers have all kinds of electronics now and need 120v to run them. If it has a transformer built in, then you could run it on a two hot and ground setup, but if not then you’ll need to pull a neutral for it to use. You don’t want to try to make 120v by grabbing one hot wire and using the ground wire.
It works very well on 2 hots and a ground.
I posted a link to what I bought
SO/SJ cable almost always counts all the wires as conductors. While MC cable counts line and neutral as conductors. Here’s examples of what I have laying around in the shop.
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Must be a Mandela effect.. when I bought these cords 15 years ago they were labeled 12/2 3 prong
Seams there no standard..
Seams there no standard..
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Here's a video for you guys who don't like strange chemicals in your body
Source: https://youtu.be/SC2eSujzrUY?si=8zIKIWbRK8bCMfvs
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Teflon has it place
Keeps the blood flowing because it's slippery ?
IDK if I own any cooking stuff with Teflon coating, generally use bare stainless steel, though im slowly swapping to cast iron.
I’m about 1/4 GenX, the DuPont plant that makes it is in my home town and I now live down river. Google Wilmington nc and GenX. Erin Brokovich even came here to have town hall meetings.
Same here. I mostly just have one non stick pan now I use for scrambled eggs. Still haven't got the stainless down for stick free eggs. But almost everything else is in stainless or cast. Not that I'm really trying to avoid Teflon, it's just the short life and constant replacement that's is starting to get to me. Stainless and cast are life long investments
Any of our Teflon kitchen stuff all I use are rubber spatulas or plastic. I never use anything metal to scrape or scratch it.
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