Like james said, it takes x amount of cylinder pressure to make y amount of power. The only difference with bigger injectors vs stock is that your duration of high cylinder pressures is shorter when you have bigger sticks.
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Like james said, it takes x amount of cylinder pressure to make y amount of power. The only difference with bigger injectors vs stock is that your duration of high cylinder pressures is shorter when you have bigger sticks.
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Yep, you're a newbie....and I dont own a boat.
James said everything I would've concerning "safe".
And yes, I've already "been there. done that", too.
Being here before 08-12 lol.
Be easy on Tom, he is 100% correct. I have been there and done that as well.
My stock engine lasted a whole 2 weeks @ 500-550rwhp before it bent a rod and blew both headgaskets, so anything can happen. I started seeing the trend of "throw injectors in your truck is much safer" yet, you make more HP, so it may be "easier" to get the fuel in, it's harder on everything else.... Only way to make it "easier" is to turn the truck down.
After building my engine, I wouldn't even trust anything past 550rwhp in any engine.
Be easy on Tom, he is 100% correct. I have been there and done that as well.
My stock engine lasted a whole 2 weeks @ 500-550rwhp before it bent a rod and blew both headgaskets, so anything can happen. I started seeing the trend of "throw injectors in your truck is much safer" yet, you make more HP, so it may be "easier" to get the fuel in, it's harder on everything else.... Only way to make it "easier" is to turn the truck down.
After building my engine, I wouldn't even trust anything past 550rwhp in any engine.
Where Tom is coming from is him being at this dmax hp game for a loooooooong time.
I wouldnt establish you as a newb but more of the misinformed/less educated as to just where and what these motors can and can't take. I know your just taking your tuners word for it but don't take it to heart. It can give false hope to what may be a ticking time bomb.
What Tom is getting at is the guys that joint the forum. Read a few threads where guys got big dyno numbers on stock motors and think that this then applys to the vast majority. Then they proceed to go around saying "dmaxes can make 700hp reliably stock with detorqued tuning and bigger injectors and more air". These guys have not seen the past in how many motors have popped over time even with said additions or done as some guys say to do to keep motors "safer" at high hp.
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Not regurgitate shit that they have read some where else. Or regurgitate wrong information and think its true because they read it on the internet.
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After those replies, I dont think I have to say a dang thing. Perfectly said, b/c thats exactly what I see these new guys doing.
Its gone from 500 to 550 to 575 to 600 to 625 to 650 to 700...c'mon already. These engines are far from bulletproof.
I am a past Team "Borrowed Time" member, too.
I havent brought out the ol' 12.40 tune in a couple years and rock a mileage tune from Steve every day now.
I really need to get back to work on the 1/2 ton.
jeez that should make the truck feel real quick thenI havent brought out the ol' 12.40 tune in a couple years.I rock a mileage tune from Steve every day now. I really need to get back to work on the 1/2 ton.
I havent brought out the ol' 12.40 tune in a couple years. I rock a mileage tune from Steve every day now. I really need to get back to work on the 1/2 ton.[/QUOTE]
I know how that goes, ive never even used my 4 and 5th tune since the twins. To scared. I know 3 is well in the borrowed time club area. Lol.
I rock a mileage tune from Steve every day now. I really need to get back to work on the 1/2 ton.[/QUOTE]I know how that goes, ive never even used my 4 and 5th tune since the twins. To scared. I know 3 is well in the borrowed time club area. Lol.
Lol I think you guys convinced my not to do injectors
Personally, I run my own theory based on what I've read, seen, learned and personally done but I don't expect my rig to last forever. I've already pre planned that this motor might have to come back out for some reason down the road. Then I may try something different theory wise and see if it works.
It's kinda like asking for a "safe stock trans ECM tune". There isn't one other than stock, anything over that is shortening the life of the trans
Totally agree, I've already figured out what I'm putting in my motor down the road.
I plan on it popping just hopefully not anytime soon at 550 hp.
Man that club seems to have just up and left. Lot of people were scared to be in that club lol
It's all about that damn tailgate club
SMH
I figured the tailgate guys would clean up :spit: :roflmao: