Camber issues

[Ridin'GMC]

It happens.

Also I didn’t fully read as this thing has been lowered.

Glad you found the fix with the lower control arms

It's pretty low enough that my bump stops are crushed and nearly gone and sits about 1" close to the bump stop frame. I ordered the LCA recently and hoping it'll work.

Now Im thinking of an idea how to set up air bags.... Maybe using stiffer torsion bars and set up the bags in the torsion bar support as a cantilever setup which would be easier to modify than in the control arms because of the shocks and cv shafts plus the frame mounts. One issue is the exhaust pipe is in the way on the passenger side that may not allow enough travel. Just an idea and hoping it won't have a too soft or bouncy ride because of 2 different spring rates at the same time.

 

[2004LB7]

It's pretty low enough that my bump stops are crushed and nearly gone and sits about 1" close to the bump stop frame. I ordered the LCA recently and hoping it'll work.

Now Im thinking of an idea how to set up air bags.... Maybe using stiffer torsion bars and set up the bags in the torsion bar support as a cantilever setup which would be easier to modify than in the control arms because of the shocks and cv shafts plus the frame mounts. One issue is the exhaust pipe is in the way on the passenger side that may not allow enough travel. Just an idea and hoping it won't have a too soft or bouncy ride because of 2 different spring rates at the same time.

Two different spring rates normally soften the ride when unloaded. That's kinda why the original bump stops where done the way they where. The softer ones (bags) take the small bumps and vibrations. Then when loaded up or on large bumps and the bags bottom out or hit their limit the torsion bars start to take up some. If done correctly it would be a progression to ever increasing stiffer suspension as the load increases

 

[Chevy1925]

It's pretty low enough that my bump stops are crushed and nearly gone and sits about 1" close to the bump stop frame. I ordered the LCA recently and hoping it'll work.

Now Im thinking of an idea how to set up air bags.... Maybe using stiffer torsion bars and set up the bags in the torsion bar support as a cantilever setup which would be easier to modify than in the control arms because of the shocks and cv shafts plus the frame mounts. One issue is the exhaust pipe is in the way on the passenger side that may not allow enough travel. Just an idea and hoping it won't have a too soft or bouncy ride because of 2 different spring rates at the same time.

Kelderman did a kit like that many years ago. Think it was just sema thing because i never saw it come out as a kit. I was actively watching at the time lol

Google around, there might be old pics of it still floating around

Two different spring rates normally soften the ride when unloaded. That's kinda why the original bump stops where done the way they where. The softer ones (bags) take the small bumps and vibrations. Then when loaded up or on large bumps and the bags bottom out or hit their limit the torsion bars start to take up some. If done correctly it would be a progression to ever increasing stiffer suspension as the load increases

Na, stick with a heavy torsion bar. Your going to get very little movement at the “key” side as suspension moves and the bag is already inherently very progressive as is. Its going to be very sensitive to air pressure changes and if you need to change the progressiveness of the bag, you can add glycol to the bag to increase it.

Trying to combine the torsion bars like that is just too much for the slight bit of movement. Would be a bitch to make shocks work right too




The lack of movement i feel will be an issue, might need to make a longer arm so its not so sensitive.

 

[Ridin'GMC]

Kelderman did a kit like that many years ago. Think it was just sema thing because i never saw it come out as a kit. I was actively watching at the time lol

Google around, there might be old pics of it still floating around




Na, stick with a heavy torsion bar. Your going to get very little movement at the “key” side as suspension moves and the bag is already inherently very progressive as is. Its going to be very sensitive to air pressure changes and if you need to change the progressiveness of the bag, you can add glycol to the bag to increase it.

Trying to combine the torsion bars like that is just too much for the slight bit of movement. Would be a bitch to make shocks work right too




The lack of movement i feel will be an issue, might need to make a longer arm so its not so sensitive.

Stiffer torsion bar definitely makes more sense to me while using bags as it would be less likely to have different rates unless I bottom the shit out of it like a jump haha. This video is what gave me an idea but instead of it being horizontal, I would do it vertical almost like a 90 degree arm with a pivot point. Probably drill a hole in the key and bolt it to the arm with a bearing or some sort to allow it move freely.

Needless to say, I'm motivated to try this setup using the stock torsion bar mount and modify/brace it to make it work. It'll be a winter project for sure.

Source: https://youtu.be/wLR070ck3sQ?si=HmKqIwTvOMM5FDbl

 

[2004LB7]

Stiffer torsion bar definitely makes more sense to me while using bags as it would be less likely to have different rates unless I bottom the shit out of it like a jump haha. This video is what gave me an idea but instead of it being horizontal, I would do it vertical almost like a 90 degree arm with a pivot point. Probably drill a hole in the key and bolt it to the arm with a bearing or some sort to allow it move freely.

Needless to say, I'm motivated to try this setup using the stock torsion bar mount and modify/brace it to make it work. It'll be a winter project for sure.

Source: https://youtu.be/wLR070ck3sQ?si=HmKqIwTvOMM5FDbl

With the transmission in the way, you're going to have to come up with something clever