Byron "slow track" discussion

[bdr_diesel]

I got bashed on my first post lol. And it’s not my truck...he just put the S369sxe put on the weekend before and wanted an updated tune from dan.

I feel like I keep repeating myself...but I’m still a little butt hurt about everyone getting on my ass and assuming I was bragging about the times. I went there that day thinking the 69 should be getting mid 12s but once he showed up still leveled out and 70psi in his BFG tires...my expectations dropped a little. And it’s his 2nd time racing...he ran 14s in 2wd with stock setup in the spring

 

[bdr_diesel]

And yes Josh....I wish it was running like yours does. I already reccomended new tuning and we can swap tunes and dyno both. But it sounds like he’s about to drop the $$ for 45s

 

[Ne-max]

The fact is even if the 369 and sportsman truck isn’t setup for racing it should still be putting down more power and therefore trapping higher speeds. It’s putting down the same power as a stock truck. Therefore the customer wasted 5k on parts Plus labor. Obviously something is wrong with the truck or tuning.

Even if the track is “slow” if the trucks were performing like they should the 369 and sportsman truck should be trapping much higher speeds than a stock air and fuel truck.

Also there is many of us young guys on here. I just turned 23 myself and that doesn’t mean the members here bash me. I treat them with respect and appreciate the help they have all offered me and it goes a long ways :thumb:

The guys he is arguing with go to the track a couple times a month at different tracks around the country. They see the b.s all the time.

 

[N2BRK]

not that I don't enjoy a good stoning, but I don't know if he's that crazy far off. If you take a truck not set up to race - like a CC 4x4 with big bumpers rolling on 20's with a tool box for example. That pig is 8200lbs. If you plug 8200lbs and 625hp into the Duramax Math calc on this site, you get 105mph and he's making 104mph. Unless I'm not reading this right?

 

[bdr_diesel]

Alright. We can end this discussion on this then. What do you guys think on the stock air/fuel LBZ time slip. 7500lbs roughly CCSB and setup for drag racing.

We will completely toss out the big turbo trucks because obviously they caused all of this debate.

And we will start over and pretend like this didn’t happen and I’ll try my hardest to not sound like a bragging cocky douche bag who ran 13s on bigger turbos.

 

[N2BRK]

we got my buddy's truck as you described, with a built trans from George, to a 2wd dead hook - 12.6 at Atco and I can't recall the mph

 

[Josh154]

That truck runs good. You’ve got a 103 trap speed at 7500lbs. Good tuning and healthy fuel system.

I ran my 12.86 at 104.90 with my tct lly turbo 6800lbs dropping rail to 21k. So that 4094 setup dropping rail to 21k is about right too considering it’s orobably heavier than 6800lbs and trapping 103-104. Which also has duramax tuner tuning.

Now the last truck with a sportsman and 369sxe should be holding rail and making more power. Yet that truck has ddp tuning.

See the problem here?

 

[bdr_diesel]

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The one that’s circled.

 

[TheBac]

Everyone done yet?

 

[bdr_diesel]

That truck runs good. You’ve got a 103 trap speed at 7500lbs. Good tuning and healthy fuel system.

I ran my 12.86 at 104.90 with my tct lly turbo 6800lbs dropping rail to 21k. So that 4094 setup dropping rail to 21k is about right too considering it’s orobably heavier than 6800lbs and trapping 103-104. Which also has duramax tuner tuning.

Now the last truck with a sportsman and 369sxe should be holding rail and making more power. Yet that truck has ddp tuning.

See the problem here?

I’m gonna give it a chance on the DDP tuning once he is actually setup for racing. But yes, 4094 truck was probably closer to 8000 lbs because his backseat has a bunch of shit and his stack weighs about 100-150lbs and a 5th wheel hitch, rails, and bunch of other shit that probably added a lot to the weight.

 

[bdr_diesel]

Everyone done yet?

I think we are close

 

[Josh154]

Man just ditch the ddp tuning. Not saying 45’s are a bad idea but if he’s wanting to drop money on injectors because he knows his truck isn’t running what it should have him spend the $500 on Danville tunes first.

 

[bdr_diesel]

No, he wanted to do injectors initially, he wants to shoot for 700-750 hp range.

 

[Josh154]

Then i would definitely ditch the ddp tuning.. I didn’t even trust my truck with Ppei tunes and i would trust Ppei much more than ddp. We’ve all seen the shady shit dan will pull. And unless dimitri put him on blast he would still be pulling that shit.

 

[bdr_diesel]

I’m actually going to start running starlite

 

[Schwinn68]

I've raced at Byron and right here at Joliet and have found that I was easily a half second faster at Byron. My truck ran a 12.8 on cold mud tires. I wanted to see what it run in street set up and not drag race set up. My truck has an early Danville charger and 45 over injectors.

I would look at the tuning first. It makes an unbelievable difference especially when you get into bigger chargers and more fuel. Having someone who knows what they're doing and actually sits in the truck to tune it is ge only way to go. Mark and his dyno would be money well spent.

 

[bdr_diesel]

Yeah I’m excited to see what my personal setup does so everything is setup how I want it lol

 

[1TRIKHD]

This thread is awesome!

 

[SickLL7Crenshaw]

I would love to run at Byron compared to the tracks and elevation I run at.

 

[AZlml]

Just for the sheer fact I read all this I'll comment to keep it alive.