02 LB7 Crank no start

Fryerdiesel

New member
Dec 7, 2025
29
0
1
Prince Frederick, MD
Yeah I know. What I can't find is what pins are where on the actual connector. Every other connector is on there like, for the FICM and every single sensor but the ECM is not
That doesn't matter now anyway because I have a crank signal and RPM but what I would like to know is what the circle of broken lines means around both the crank and cam sensors. I guess it means shielded wires but I also can't find where S170 and S171 are located on the truck.
 

2004LB7

Super Moderator
Staff member
Dec 15, 2010
8,551
3,058
113
Norcal
Yeah I know. What I can't find is what pins are where on the actual connector. Every other connector is on there like, for the FICM and every single sensor but the ECM is not
The connectors are labeled. Small numbers molded into the connector
JKECM09c.jpg
That doesn't matter now anyway because I have a crank signal and RPM but what I would like to know is what the circle of broken lines means around both the crank and cam sensors. I guess it means shielded wires but I also can't find where S170 and S171 are located on the truck.
Yes, shielding
 

Fryerdiesel

New member
Dec 7, 2025
29
0
1
Prince Frederick, MD
So, if it's making white "smoke" from the exhaust that actually is fuel vapor because it smells really strong like raw fuel when I crank it, doesn't that mean the injectors are firing?
 

gmduramax

Shits broke
Jun 12, 2008
4,185
326
83
Nor cal
So, if it's making white "smoke" from the exhaust that actually is fuel vapor because it smells really strong like raw fuel when I crank it, doesn't that mean the injectors are firing?
White smoke is raw unburnt fuel. That is not good because it could mean the injectors are leaking.
 

2004LB7

Super Moderator
Staff member
Dec 15, 2010
8,551
3,058
113
Norcal
So, if it's making white "smoke" from the exhaust that actually is fuel vapor because it smells really strong like raw fuel when I crank it, doesn't that mean the injectors are firing?
Yep, raw unburnt fuel. Off the top of my head for potential reasons, leaking injectors, very low compression, really cold, or timing is way off like a sheared crank pin

Should be able to see which ones are leaking, if so by removing all the glow plugs, pull the EDU fuse and crank it over. If none leak then put the fuse back in and recrank an all eight should spray fuel mist out the flow plug holes

Compression test when the glow plugs are already out

Inspect crank balance pin depending on above results
 

Fryerdiesel

New member
Dec 7, 2025
29
0
1
Prince Frederick, MD
Yep, raw unburnt fuel. Off the top of my head for potential reasons, leaking injectors, very low compression, really cold, or timing is way off like a sheared crank pin

Should be able to see which ones are leaking, if so by removing all the glow plugs, pull the EDU fuse and crank it over. If none leak then put the fuse back in and recrank an all eight should spray fuel mist out the flow plug holes

Compression test when the glow plugs are already out

Inspect crank balance pin depending on above results
Crank pin and the tooth wheel inside there are both good because I checked them. This is a real head scratcher because all it did was sit for a while so even though the compression and injector tests are logical, it still doesn't make sense why a perfectly good running truck would not start just from sitting but, I guess I'll be buying a diesel compression tester...
 

Bdsankey

Vendor
Vendor/Sponsor
Feb 1, 2018
4,817
1,862
113
Larsen, Wisconsin
I've absolutely seen material plug an injector while sitting, either from being suspended in fuel/created by the pump or just water causing rust/growth etc so it is possible in my opinion.
 
Last edited:

Fryerdiesel

New member
Dec 7, 2025
29
0
1
Prince Frederick, MD
Yep, raw unburnt fuel. Off the top of my head for potential reasons, leaking injectors, very low compression, really cold, or timing is way off like a sheared crank pin

Should be able to see which ones are leaking, if so by removing all the glow plugs, pull the EDU fuse and crank it over. If none leak then put the fuse back in and recrank an all eight should spray fuel mist out the flow plug holes

Compression test when the glow plugs are already out

Inspect crank balance pin depending on above results
Okay I have a dumb question. I assume you mean ECU fuse when you say EDU but when I look in the box, I don't see which one that is.
 

Attachments

  • PXL_20260401_200933957.jpg
    PXL_20260401_200933957.jpg
    354.4 KB · Views: 8
  • PXL_20260401_201212375.MP.jpg
    PXL_20260401_201212375.MP.jpg
    277.1 KB · Views: 8

Fryerdiesel

New member
Dec 7, 2025
29
0
1
Prince Frederick, MD
Also, the 2 fuses directly under 1 and 2 are not even on the truck but, when I looked at my other (running) LB7 truck, it doesn't have them either. So, they obviously don't matter but why are they even on the fuse schematic?
 

2004LB7

Super Moderator
Staff member
Dec 15, 2010
8,551
3,058
113
Norcal
Also, the 2 fuses directly under 1 and 2 are not even on the truck but, when I looked at my other (running) LB7 truck, it doesn't have them either. So, they obviously don't matter but why are they even on the fuse schematic?
I forget your's is an 02 Duramax. The wiring was weird for the pre 03 years. The 03+ calls the FICM fuse EDU. Your's I think is fuse #1 for injB
 

Fryerdiesel

New member
Dec 7, 2025
29
0
1
Prince Frederick, MD
Okay, I don't know what the hell is going on. Pulled the 25A fuse 1* for INJB and fuel still sprays from the holes. Then, I took out 1,2,3 and 4. Same thing. Finally I pulled the 10A ENG 1 and the 20A ECM B also and it still sprays from the glow plug holes! So, does it take a few cranks to dry out after fuel is injected? I don't understand it.
 

2004LB7

Super Moderator
Staff member
Dec 15, 2010
8,551
3,058
113
Norcal
A few seconds of cranking should dray out most of the fuel in any cylinder. If it continues to pump out fuel mist, you either have leaking injectors or the FICM is still active. Maybe just pull the harness connectors right off the FICM if you're not sure on the fuse
 

Fryerdiesel

New member
Dec 7, 2025
29
0
1
Prince Frederick, MD
Well this time I did the compression test on all the cylinders so it definitely cranked long enough and I pulled 6 fuses plus the fuel pump relay just to be sure I disabled the fuel system and I definitely got sprayed by at least 2 cylinders. One of them is really bad. PXL_20260411_185331256.jpg
 

Fryerdiesel

New member
Dec 7, 2025
29
0
1
Prince Frederick, MD
I also posted the numbers I got on the compression test but I can't believe I have bad injectors with the FASS pump that has 2 fuel filters and those injectors only have about 40k on them. This sucks... NOT looking forward to this job! I guess all 8 should be replaced right