Vote no to Assault weapons ban

SmokeShow

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Also be sure to spread the word about it to your friends and family and gov't representatives. ;) Its a LONG way from the target number of signatures.
 

SmokeShow

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Probably took a hit today though with the VTech shooting whether an assault weapon was used or not. That type of thing is never good publicity for guns in general even though anyone with even half a brain knows that guns aren't the problem but rather the individuals using them. :rolleyes:
 

robertleeii

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the sad thing is that most guns used in shooting are illegal anyway. it is not like makeing more guns illegal will do anything!

i work for an investment firm they block most media sights.

some how this sight and the diesel place got threw there net :) !!
 

02freighttrain

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First my prayers go out to the VTech Families. I think he used a couple of 9mm handguns. Still, This won't be good for the proposed ban.


Signed..............
 

SmokeShow

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First my prayers go out to the VTech Families. I think he used a couple of 9mm handguns. Still, This won't be good for the proposed ban.


Signed..............

I knew you needed to sign it. ;) I remember that picture you posted on DP about part of your collection. Saved it to my personal comp. I was so impressed. :D :cool2: Yes, it is a bit easier beings it was "just" a couple of hand guns, although, they are next in line behind assault weapons as far as push to ban.


C-ya
 

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Living in Australia where pretty much EVERY gun is banned apart from those under lock and key at sporting clubs it's a small sacrifice when our gun death rate is about 250 per year for a population of approx 20 Million. Countries like Japan are even lower per population numbers (with tough gun laws), and we play the same violent video games (Japan more so) and watch the same violent movies as you all do so that old excuse does not cut it.
So why does the US have the highest gun death rate in the western world? In fact, I think Canada has a higher gun ownership rate than the US per person, yet much, much lower gun death rates.
When Australia banned guns about 10 years ago and started the government gun buy back scheme our death rate was around 600 per year, like I said before, that has now dropped to 250 per year in 2006 (and the population has grown). So getting weapons out of peoples hands works! It's been proven in several countries.

I know this is a 'touchy' subject for you all and I'm not looking to make enemies here, just wanting to 'express' a different opinion, not 'change' anyones opinion. I don't think the USA will ever become a gunless society, as you say Smoke Show "protct the freedoms and liberties for which this country was established on".

Cheers,
Ross
 
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02freighttrain

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Living in Australia where pretty much EVERY gun is banned apart from those under lock and key at sporting clubs it's a small sacrifice when our gun death rate is about 250 per year for a population of approx 20 Million. Countries like Japan are even lower per population numbers (with tough gun laws), and we play the same violent video games (Japan more so) and watch the same violent movies as you all do so that old excuse does not cut it.
So why does the US have the highest gun death rate in the western world? In fact, I think Canada has a higher gun ownership rate than the US per person, yet much, much lower gun death rates.
When Australia banned guns about 10 years ago and started the government gun buy back scheme our death rate was around 600 per year, like I said before, that has now dropped to 250 per year in 2006 (and the population has grown). So getting weapons out of peoples hands works! It's been proven in several countries.

I know this is a 'touchy' subject for you all and I'm not looking to make enemies here, just wanting to 'express' a different opinion, not 'change' anyones opinion. I don't think the USA will ever become a gunless society, as you say Smoke Show "protct the freedoms and liberties for which this country was established on".

Cheers,
Ross
The main reason is that our Judges let violent people off to easy. They do not serve much time in our hotel style prisons. Bad people in the U.S. know, that if they are arrested for a crime, they will soon be out after bulking up on the weight machines in jail. Most violent crimes involving firearms in the states, are commited by people that have been in and out of jail and didn't spend enough time there to learn a lesson. If we would keep these people behind bars the gun crime would be more in line with other socialist nations that you speak of. How bout them D'max's:D
 

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The main reason is that our Judges let violent people off to easy. They do not serve much time in our hotel style prisons. Bad people in the U.S. know, that if they are arrested for a crime, they will soon be out after bulking up on the weight machines in jail. Most violent crimes involving firearms in the states, are commited by people that have been in and out of jail and didn't spend enough time there to learn a lesson. If we would keep these people behind bars the gun crime would be more in line with other socialist nations that you speak of. How bout them D'max's:D

At least you still have the death penalty, it's a shame Australia got rid of this, IMHO, there is just some crimes that deserve the ultimate punishment.

Unfortunately there is no easy answer, out here we don't 'feel' the need to own a gun for self protection because majority of the population (and many crims for that matter) don't have one, for you guys, you need one because the crims do have them. There's the problem, if the crims didn't have them then all you would need to own a gun for is sporting / collecting, not self protection, but, how do you get the guns out of the hands of criminals and people on the edge ready to crack!.
It will be interesting to see what comes out of this, it was in fact a massacre in Australia that prompted our government to introduce the tough gun laws. Remember a politicians #1 concern is votes, public outcry (if there is any) and media attention will probably be the deciding factor.

Cheers,
Ross
 
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