New guy with a new to me old truck, headgasket r-n-r questions

1FastBrick

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Is there a link or site to see it? Thank you :)
I do not have a webstore. My logic is I want the customer to talk to me, tell me their goals, tell me their usage.

This helps me ensure the parts I recommend will meet their goals the first time. I've spent far too much money figuring out things that do/don't work and I hope to save my customers that pain lol.

Is this an old school customer service approach? You're darn right it is, but it's the way I grew up doing business and it's been a solid model for my own business.

My standard HG kit is as follows:
1) Mahle head set (HS54580 for LB7)
2) Mahle HGs (54582/54585)
3) Thread chasers (M8x1.25 & M12x1.5)
4) Fastener of your choice
-OEM style TTY bolts
-DHD studs
-Gator studs
-ARP studs

When doing HGs, I always recommend sending the heads to a machine shop or replacing them. They need to be pressure checked for cracks, decked flat, valve recession/depth checked and adjusted, valve job inspected and recut as needed, guides inspected and replaced as needed, spring installed height adjusted to account for any valve recession changes, cups resealed etc.

My most common solution on the LB7 platform is to replace with Fleece cupless heads. My local machine shop charges ~$700-$1000 depending on head condition to recondition OEM heads to new specs whereas it is $2198 no core for brand new virgin cupless heads.
 

1FastBrick

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Wow. Something actually useful came out of LFS. Cannot believe that hack is still in business.
? I wasn't around early enough for that, I sure would like to hear the back story.

I think that chart is missing a few small things but it's good enough to get the job done. In fairness, I have not done an LB7 so I am not sure if it has everything.
 

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I do not have a webstore. My logic is I want the customer to talk to me, tell me their goals, tell me their usage.

This helps me ensure the parts I recommend will meet their goals the first time. I've spent far too much money figuring out things that do/don't work and I hope to save my customers that pain lol.

Is this an old school customer service approach? You're darn right it is, but it's the way I grew up doing business and it's been a solid model for my own business.

My standard HG kit is as follows:
1) Mahle head set (HS54580 for LB7)
2) Mahle HGs (54582/54585)
3) Thread chasers (M8x1.25 & M12x1.5)
4) Fastener of your choice
-OEM style TTY bolts
-DHD studs
-Gator studs
-ARP studs

When doing HGs, I always recommend sending the heads to a machine shop or replacing them. They need to be pressure checked for cracks, decked flat, valve recession/depth checked and adjusted, valve job inspected and recut as needed, guides inspected and replaced as needed, spring installed height adjusted to account for any valve recession changes, cups resealed etc.

My most common solution on the LB7 platform is to replace with Fleece cupless heads. My local machine shop charges ~$700-$1000 depending on head condition to recondition OEM heads to new specs whereas it is $2198 no core for brand new virgin cupless heads.
I like the way you do business. I grew up in the middle of nowhere WV and that’s how I prefer things. The plans for my truck are reliability and longevity. I don’t have any plans of tuning it much if any, not racing it, not mudding it, or doing anything crazy or stupid. My bank account and my wife won’t tolerate it long lol. It will be used as a daily driver some, to haul my ATV, haul trash and miscellaneous items, to pull my 18’ utility trailer, and occasionally pull my dad’s gooseneck equipment trailer with round bales of hay and/or the occasional vehicle(the same trailer we hauled my truck home on and pulled with my dad’s 2012 F250 6.2 gas lol).
 

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I like the way you do business. I grew up in the middle of nowhere WV and that’s how I prefer things. The plans for my truck are reliability and longevity. I don’t have any plans of tuning it much if any, not racing it, not mudding it, or doing anything crazy or stupid. My bank account and my wife won’t tolerate it long lol. It will be used as a daily driver some, to haul my ATV, haul trash and miscellaneous items, to pull my 18’ utility trailer, and occasionally pull my dad’s gooseneck equipment trailer with round bales of hay and/or the occasional vehicle(the same trailer we hauled my truck home on and pulled with my dad’s 2012 F250 6.2 gas lol).
I appreciate that!

You don't "need" head studs. The OEM-style TTY bolts are a great option and can save a fair amount of coin. Unlike other modern diesels, the head fastener is not why these trucks fail head gaskets.