LML Maximum tire size for 2011 on 20x9 or 18x9 +20/+25 wheels NO MODS

[fishv12]

I have been reading threads for the last couple nights on trying to figure out what fits and what doesn't and well I am a little cross eyed and would appreciate some help.

Basically what I am looking for is NOT cranking the torsion bars as I don't want to affect the ride. Been there done that. If I am to do it it would be for a very minor adjustment like a couple turns that's it. I also do not want to hack the fender and would like to keep my factory mud flaps. Don't mind having to cut the body mount tab or tying the liner back but I don't want to touch the fender. I would like to keep the package tucked in the fender as much as I can all well so that means a +20 or +25 offset which seems to be available (never seen anything like the stock +44)

For the 18 inch size from what I can find a 285/65/18 32.6" tire should fit no problem. Same size as stock except a little wider.

For the 20 inch size from what I can find only the stocker actually fits with no issues. Every other combo seem to give issues.

I find that hard to believe that not even a 33" tire half an inch bigger will not clear but it's what it is I guess.

Wow shitty tire options in those sizes! No goodyear duratracs it seems...

 

[clrussell]

You should be able to run a 285/55/20 on just about any wheel on an lml.. We put 305/55/20 on factory wheels all the time with no issues.

 

[slowlml]

Subd.
I want to run a 20x9 +20 wheel with nitto 305/55 it possible. My tire guy says it will rub, but multiple other people have told me it would work?

 

[S Phinney]

I just put 20x9 plus 18 wheels with 295 55 20 Toyo Extreme AT 2 on and have the leveling kit with Cognito arms and shock extenders. It will touch the drivers rear liner at locks but no other trimming or anything. For 900 bucks you can do the arms, 5100 shocks and max cam leveling kit. It drops the center chunk by 3/4 inch and has shock extenders as well. Rude is as good as factory. Before I did the arms the ride was much more harsh. You could see where the factory arms had touched the frame during suspension movement.

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[fishv12]

You should be able to run a 285/55/20 on just about any wheel on an lml.. We put 305/55/20 on factory wheels all the time with no issues.

This is not what I read whatsoever concerning the 305/55/20's which are 33.2" on factory wheels with a bone stock LML. Everything I read so far involved either doing a small fender mod or cranking some on factory wheels although I read many things.

I would be plenty happy with a 285/55/20 if I could get it to fit no mods with a +20 or +25 offset rim. Actually it's pretty much the same tire size as the 285/65/18 I read fits. I would feel much better if someone could confirm that although.

 

[clrussell]

This is not what I read whatsoever concerning the 305/55/20's which are 33.2" on factory wheels with a bone stock LML. Everything I read so far involved either doing a small fender mod or cranking some on factory wheels although I read many things.

I would be plenty happy with a 285/55/20 if I could get it to fit no mods with a +20 or +25 offset rim. Actually it's pretty much the same tire size as the 285/65/18 I read fits. I would feel much better if someone could confirm that although.

I'll find pics I've previously posted on this subject..

I've got 2 lml trucks running around on 35-12.50 with only a leveling kit. ( I know you don't want to raise the front, just an example), have one with 305/55s with maybe 2 turns on the bolts, I've got one on 295/60/20s with zero offset no trimming just inner fenders pulled back ( maybe 4 turns on the bolts, sits no where near level rides like w dream)

285s should be no issue at all unless your running a 20x12 -44...

With + wheels my biggest concern would be rubbing the sway bar not the fenders..

 

[S Phinney]

This is not what I read whatsoever concerning the 305/55/20's which are 33.2" on factory wheels with a bone stock LML. Everything I read so far involved either doing a small fender mod or cranking some on factory wheels although I read many things.

I would be plenty happy with a 285/55/20 if I could get it to fit no mods with a +20 or +25 offset rim. Actually it's pretty much the same tire size as the 285/65/18 I read fits. I would feel much better if someone could confirm that although.

The 285 55 20 will be a little wider than the 285 65 18. It is more blocked off on the tread. It should fit. With out some nodding it will most likely touch the liner

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[fishv12]

I use my truck for camping in the summer and put a heavy camper in the box. If I level the truck it will ride nose up and I don't want that. I am quite happy how the truck handles right now and I really don't want to lose that.

With that said a couple turns on the torsion bars is not leveling and shouldn't affect the ride as you said. I would be much more open to that than hacking away at the fenders on my new to me ride... But I don't want to have to deal with installing a whole leveling package or lift that's too much for me. I would love to go the 305/55/20 route it's actually a 33" tire and opens lots of tire options... Another question would be concerning the molded mud flaps would I need to ditch those in order to get the 305/55/20's to fit? What about the 285/55/20's?

What I like about the 305/55/20's is the tire options... Especially the Duratrac which I was hoping to try. Not stuck on it but I read many good things about the tire and I like the thread pattern. I have tried Michelin LTX AT2 which are on my truck right now and General's Grabber AT2 on my old LB7 and I wasn't impressed with both. The General's were major rock throwers and chipped the heck out of my paint.

 

[fishv12]

After some research the Duratracs are bad for rock slinging... I read an MT tire is best for not picking up small rocks and throwing them. Anyways seperate subject but I will be doing some tire research before I make a decision. Doesn't change the fact that there are way more choices in the 305/55/20 size.

 

[fishv12]

The 285 55 20 will be a little wider than the 285 65 18. It is more blocked off on the tread. It should fit. With out some nodding it will most likely touch the liner

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This actually makes no sense they are both the same width the only difference is that the 20 is a 32.4" tire and the 18 is a 32.6" tire. So in other words the 20 inch tires would be a better fit.

 

[S Phinney]

This actually makes no sense they are both the same width the only difference is that the 20 is a 32.4" tire and the 18 is a 32.6" tire. So in other words the 20 inch tires would be a better fit.

If all tires met the same technical specifications as a industry standard it may be easier. I have put both of those sizes beside each other and that particular brand there was about 3/8" difference in the two.

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[S Phinney]

The Toyo AT2 tires show on their data to be a 1/4" difference in the two sizes.

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[fishv12]

I found a thread online stating a 275/65/20 should fit on a +18
http://www.duramaxforum.com/forum/wheels-tires/121820-leveled-2011-lml-what-should-i-get-2.html

Find that really hard to believe since it's a 34" tire.

I may just stick with 18's and go 285/65/18 like he did here
http://www.duramaxforum.com/forum/wheels-tires/220378-xd-riots-809-a.html#post9650250
http://www.duramaxforum.com/forum/2...n/250313-blue-granite-lml-build-thread-2.html

I like that the offset in +18 seem to be nice and flush with the fender. Not sure in what size yet that is all.

 

[fishv12]

Here a 285/60/20 is reported to fit using factory wheels. I wonder if it would be the same with +18 or +20 wheels
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/76...-285-60-20-goodyears-factory-20s-no-mods.html

Honestly after looking at pictures of the 305's I don't think I want to go that route. The tire is just too wide which makes the profile look skinny in that size. Much prefer the 285/55/20 although a 285/60/20 would be nice if I could have word that it fits without mods using +20 wheels.

 

[beach_33]

I'm running 305/55/20 on my 16 with only a few turns on the tbars. Not sure what the factory offset is. I'm looking at new rims now and trying to decide on offset with the same tires. Looking at +1 or +20. Help would be appreciated

 

[Troysalm71]

I have been reading threads for the last couple nights on trying to figure out what fits and what doesn't and well I am a little cross eyed and would appreciate some help.

Basically what I am looking for is NOT cranking the torsion bars as I don't want to affect the ride. Been there done that. If I am to do it it would be for a very minor adjustment like a couple turns that's it. I also do not want to hack the fender and would like to keep my factory mud flaps. Don't mind having to cut the body mount tab or tying the liner back but I don't want to touch the fender. I would like to keep the package tucked in the fender as much as I can all well so that means a +20 or +25 offset which seems to be available (never seen anything like the stock +44)

For the 18 inch size from what I can find a 285/65/18 32.6" tire should fit no problem. Same size as stock except a little wider.

For the 20 inch size from what I can find only the stocker actually fits with no issues. Every other combo seem to give issues.

I find that hard to believe that not even a 33" tire half an inch bigger will not clear but it's what it is I guess.

Wow shitty tire options in those sizes! No goodyear duratracs it seems...

Who says they won't fit I had zero run with 20x9 305/55/20 on xd crank wheels. It now has 35/12.5/20s on 20x10 fuel 2 piece hostage wheels with -20 offset. I will say no fender mods an will say it rides like ass right now but will be lifted. On that other set up I said the keys were even turned down a bit clearing.