OK well i got it fixed. aprentley efi explorer 8.1 does not do auto update or even update when you try to do it manually
so i guess the firmaware update i did was bad or something. so I removed the old 8.1 software installed the new 8.2 sowftware updated the v2 again with new firm ware and boot block version and presto. she fired right up
still confused as to why it caused all those other issues. but for any one running the old software i would recomend upgradeing and double checking tht it did the update to avoid the problmes that i had