2017 Enclave P0131 P0137 P0151 P0157 P0171 P0174

Cougar281

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My mothers Enclave just started having 'running issues' as she put it yesterday. The way she was describing it, it sounded kind of like a torque converter partially locking while stopped, because she said the issue went away when she got moving, but when I got there today to see what I could see, I got the list of DTCs in the title (P0131 P0137 P0151 P0157 P0171 P0174). Long Term and Short Term fuel trims get pegged to the roof.

So I went over the engine the best I could, checking for obvious vacuum leaks, but I couldn't find anything obvious. All points that would affect both banks appear solid. I used brake clean to try and find any leaks, no dice.

Data shows B1S1 starts low voltage (10-20mv) then appears to start switching normally. B1S2 goes high (700-800mv) at about the same time, which I believe is normal as if the cats are working right, you shouldn't see the rich/lean switching post cat, and both B2 sensors stay low, less than 100mv. It seems the odds of all four sensors going out the same way at the same time are low, and the O2 sensor DTCs weren't history, and both 'Last Test' and 'This ignition cycle' show 'Passed'. I don't know if the low readings are accurate and it really is super lean despite the high fuel trims, fuel rail pressure appears to be holding between 500-600PSI, which I gather is normal for GDI engines. MAF airflow runs around 3 g/s at idle.

If there was a vacuum leak between the intake manifold and a head, that would most likely only show up for one bank. For one to affect both banks, it would have to be in the upper intake manifold or between there and the MAF. But I can't find any.

Given that I can't find any obvious vacuum leaks, my thoughts are going to either a failed/failing MAF or an ECM. Given that the Long terms peg to +34 pretty fast and the short terms peg to 40, that would suggest a fairly large vacuum leak that would probably be pretty noticeable.

Has anyone seen this list of codes or have any thoughts on something I may have missed?
 

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If it was 3lbs/min on the maf, I’d say you might be alright but 3 g/s is wasaay off.

Check the intake boot behind the mass airflow sensor for any tears or holes in it. If that’s not it, pull the mass air flow sensor out and look at it and see if there’s a leaf or anything stuck in it. Those air boxes usually like to break, cause issues and suck dirt and stuff up past the air filter.
 

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From what I can find, 2-7 g/s seems to be normal at idle. I also read someone commenting that his rule of thumb was 1 g/s per liter of displacement, but of course a 'rule of thumb' can have variation.

The boot between the air cleaner housing and intake is fine, I took it off to check it good, and I pulled the MAF and it looked clean and ok.
 

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I'll have to take my smoke machine out and smoke the piss out of the intake and see if anything shows up. Since the way she described it sounded more like a torque converter issue, didn't think to bring the smoke machine. If that doesn't show any leaks, then I'm not sure... I did score an ECM and a MAF cheap from a local U-Pull yard, so I have those to fall back on and try if needed.
 

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What is(are) your forward O2 sensor(s) reading?
Data shows B1S1 starts low voltage (10-20mv) then appears to start switching normally. B1S2 goes high (700-800mv) at about the same time, which I believe is normal as if the cats are working right, you shouldn't see the rich/lean switching post cat, and both B2 sensors stay low, less than 100mv.
 

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I'll have to get more data tomorrow when I go back to smoke it out. The logs that GDS saved were somewhat 'skippy' as I wasn't just letting it run to log data.

This is what I have at the moment:
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Bank one appears to start switching properly. Bank 2 kinda sorta seems to start briefly, and then go low. But at the same time, I have Bank 1 and Bank 2 lean DTCs and fuel trims are pegged to the roof for both banks.

If we only had a lean bank 2 issue and didn't have DTCs for all four O2 snesors low, I could see the B2S1 being bad, but with the DTCs set and totality of circumstances, I have my doubts about it being O2 sensor related.

We'll see what smoking it out shows tomorrow, but if I don't get any smoke, and if I find the MAF is ok (My CT6 and her car use the same MAF, and I grabbed one today, so if I put the one I grabbed in my car and everything is ok, I can assume the MAF is ok and if installing that MAF in my mothers car makes no difference..). If it turns out there are no vacuum leaks, MAF is ok... Only thing I can think of then is ECM. O2 sensors can go bad for sure, but all at the same time? Not likely.
 

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So I smoked it and not a hint of smoke. The intake is tight. Even was building pressure and when I pulled the smoke nozzle out of the hose that was delivering it, smoke was pushed out. Turns out the MAF crapped its pants. After no smoke, I started looking more at the realtime data, and I noticed that the 'MAF' airflow reading was quite a bit lower than the calculated airflow reading, and as before, the fuel trims were all on the ceiling. So I swapped in the MAF that I acquired - right away, the calculated and MAF airflow readings were much closer, and fuel trims came down off the ceiling immediately.
 
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