looking for a good varment rifle/ long range rifle looking for some imput i like the 17hmr but was also told the 308 varmint rounds are good
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The .17 hmr will not get you out long range. Or I should ask. How far are you wanting to shoot? The .308 is a good round for shooting far but I don't like how fast it drops. Sometime when funds allow I want either have a .300 wsm built or a 7mm wsm built. Right now my favorite gun is my .204 ruger. Anything out to about 400 yds I can dust. But I recently started shooting a .223 my boss bought. I like it so far and it is a lot cheaper to shoot.
IMHO a .223 with 18"-20" HBAR will do you just fine. Bolt or Semi you can't go wrong.:thumb:
A 1/7 twist with 52gr or 55gr should be a good match but even a 1/8 or 1/9 will still work great.
The .223 is a very good, accurate round with plenty of takedown power @ 200yds +, LOTS of options/upgrades and you can build it yourself to make it exactly what you want.
That being said I am pretty partial to the .223/5.56
I love both of mine! My 16" NATO does just fine hitting a 5x5 plate @ 250 yds with crap ammo.
A 1/7 twist with 52gr or 55gr should be a good match but even a 1/8 or 1/9 will still work great.
The .223 is a very good, accurate round with plenty of takedown power @ 200yds +, LOTS of options/upgrades and you can build it yourself to make it exactly what you want.
That being said I am pretty partial to the .223/5.56
I love both of mine! My 16" NATO does just fine hitting a 5x5 plate @ 250 yds with crap ammo.
220 Swift...mine is a 24" sporter barrel (not a dedicated varmint gun) and it cuts holes (5 shots) at 100yrds with factory shells. The gun is a collector so thats all I fired out of it...I should handload for it so I can really test it. There is one recipe in the RCBS manual to push it over 4000fps
On the barrel length subject...twist plays a part in trajectory (spiral on a football).
On the barrel length subject...twist plays a part in trajectory (spiral on a football).
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Remington model 700 with a bull barrel 223 or 22-250 the shells for a 223 is cheaper than a 22-250 but the 22-250 to me is a flatter shooting gun great for long range and you cant go wrong with a good nikon or leupold scope either
IMHO a .223 with 18"-20" HBAR will do you just fine. Bolt or Semi you can't go wrong.:thumb:
A 1/7 twist with 52gr or 55gr should be a good match but even a 1/8 or 1/9 will still work great.
The .223 is a very good, accurate round with plenty of takedown power @ 200yds +, LOTS of options/upgrades and you can build it yourself to make it exactly what you want.
That being said I am pretty partial to the .223/5.56
I love both of mine! My 16" NATO does just fine hitting a 5x5 plate @ 250 yds with crap ammo.
I have not tested it personally, but isn't a 1/7" twist ideal for heavier bullets (77gr-ish)? Not that it shouldn't perform just fine with 55gr-ish bullets. Never heard anybody recommend a 1/7" for lighter bullets and say a 1/8" or 1/9" "will still work great." That seems backwards.
you guys definetly narrowed my search i am suppost go shoot a gun later today at a local gun shop 22-250 its used with a leupold scope on it. my friend who owns the shop says it is a tack driver at about 350yrds. the 700 sounds a lot like what im lookin for. i cant remember what remington i was lookin at but it had the triangulated barrel is that more for looks or dose is compansate for any thing.
Why the WSM stuff? Why not just stick with the "traditional" cases? IMO, the WSM cases are a "solution" to a non-problem... JMO. I have a Browning BAR-II in 7mm Mag with a BOSS on it and it shoots like a dream. With handloads, I was able to get about a 3/8" group @ 100yd.
I want to get something just for yotes this year, lucky to get a 150 yard shot around here.
I got an email from Thompson center arms about their new T/C Venture Predator http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/venture_predator.php Im going to check it out.
I got an email from Thompson center arms about their new T/C Venture Predator http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/venture_predator.php Im going to check it out.
What would be considered long range? Most centerfire varmint rounds are good to about 400yds, much further and lots of skill becomes involved. I bought a 22-250 last year and love it. It's a Savage Model 12 varminter, I shot .820" at 200yds 5 shot group with Hornady ammo, so plenty for me. It was also very cheap compared to other rifles, 500$
I don't know. Because I'm paying for it. I don't mean to sound like an ass but that is just what I want next. And also I want to be able to shoot at around 800-1000yds. The few people I have talked to have said that those two calibers would be a good choice.
But it is going on hold because I need (or should I say want) a new deer gun right now for our trip to Alaska. And I imagine you wouldn't like the gun I'm having built for it. It's going to be a .280 Ackley improved.
Your right.
For some reason get this bass ackwards all the damn time.....
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Heavier bullet = more twist to keep it stable (1/7)
Lighter bullet = less twist (1/10, 1/12)
(velocity dependent of course)
Either way I would still recommend a the 1/9 all around.
Savage 22-250 12bvss . I load 50g molys and get a .25" grouping at 100 yards and that is just under 4000 fps. Most accurate gun iv ever bought over the counter, very impressive.