Just a bump, and my opinion. For dry climates I would say definitely get the at2s. They do well on dirt, gravel, and pavement. When you get into mud, the don't clean out at all, so you have to keep a fair amount of tire speed to keep them clean. They are terrible in the snow and ice. They keep snow in the tread, and are soooo slick on packed roads. I siped them and it helped a bit, but they are nowhere near the tire that my goodyear duratracs were. I will be going back to the duratracs for sure! I may get more miles out of the toyos, but for an all around tire I'll take duratracs all day long.