Torque based fuel

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Why don't I ever see 1476 like I ask for ? I wont see but like 7-800 normally. I had torque limit at 5500 in limp mode. but It even when it's not in limp mode it doesn't like going up to that rpm. It limits it till I fall to like 5200 the will give the fuel 125mm3


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xtremebikr04

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Why don't I ever see 1476 like I ask for ? I wont see but like 7-800 normally. I had torque limit at 5500 in limp mode. but It even when it's not in limp mode it doesn't like going up to that rpm. It limits it till I fall to like 5200 the will give the fuel 125mm3


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The torque based fuel chart only goes to 812, just like main injection only goes to 120 mm3 and fuel pressure only goes to 125mm3. anything above those numbers most of the time will not make a difference.
 

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Well what can limit it? All the other torque reference tables are maxed out (besides when in limp mode) which I'm gonna turn off. So why would it still limit almost like its mimicking that table but it's not in limp mode. Efilive table labeled incorrectly? Happened before


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Well what can limit it? All the other torque reference tables are maxed out (besides when in limp mode) which I'm gonna turn off. So why would it still limit almost like its mimicking that table but it's not in limp mode. Efilive table labeled incorrectly? Happened before


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If all the other limiter tables are maxed out besides that one, id try turning it off/maxing it out as well.
 

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There's another limiter somewhere in the software for which EFILive doesn't the table mapped out. The max it will allow is something like 776.
 

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Most of it shouldn't be red. Just the bottom two rows on the table.
 

S Phinney

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Red means danger. Most if it red isn't going to make it run better . Sometimes just one number will cause a limiting issue. Like main a table out and the maximum number in that table should be decreased by one.
 

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In essence, you are defining the rules to play by for the computer. It sees the end of limits and freaks out. Kind of like running right up to a cliff and not allowing time enough to slow down to avoid going over the cliff.
 

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So how can I get around having only 332 ft lbs at 100 percent throttle at 3400 causing the fuel to be injected. There is another table that torquebased fuel references besides the pdl position.


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Since no one with efilive can actually know when it's gonna start full fueling, why isn't everyone setting max mm3 to something of a smaller ftlbs so we can actually have a guess of when it will start fueling hard.
Now I will have you know that I do have a maf. But every maf table I've seen I don't see what to change about to go say 60lbs min i want full fuel. So maybe it s a max that is limiting it. The only thing I see is flow vs volts. I don't see where it ties into a limiter either in efi live


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malibu795

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I only see this on spool up. I'll have to check more logs but maybe there's a 0 speed limiter. Cause when I start rolling out it seems to work fine


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Mine will randomly cut pulse width from 1750 to 1550.. I have my tq based fuel set to 870.. I'm thinking it will plot out to ~770..
That 200 us is difference between downshifting or holding on a grade from 5th to 4th and about ~50hp at the tire
 

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On LLY's there is a MAF error count table that will cause it to limp and DTC if the expected MAF table values vary too much from the actual MAF values.