Took drafting at VoTech in HS. Graduated in 2000 & went to college for civil engineering thinking I wanted to become a surveyor - thought it paid well and would allow me to be outside most work days. Had to have engr. degree to sit for the surveying lic. after 4yrs of "apprenticeship". Thought it was dumb to that my time under an engineer doing surveying & engineering couldn't count as apprenticing for both simultaneously so I decided 8yrs was silly to be credentialled in both and figured being credentialled in engineering would be more valuable. First year out of college I took a job at the local county gov't reviewing construction plans while GF (now wife) finished up her schooling. Moved back home & after some failed interviews & turned down engineering sales job, I literally applied to every engineering firm in the phonebook (dated myself there, huh LOL ). One called me in for an interview & I'm still here working in solid waste consulting engineering industry (landfills and power plant byproduct fills). Everything from permitting new facilities to CQA on multi-million dollar construction projects. I enjoy the design & construction CQA aspects but the clientel is a relatively small niche and they know it and aren't the best folks to work for sometimes. Takes its toll 15years in this year. Unfortunately, civil engineers don't make the money most people think unless end up pretty high up at large corporate firms or own their own practice. I'm hopeful for the latter at my small firm of <50 ppl.