Renewable diesel?

clrussell

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Has anyone seen this? I know nothing other than I just saw it.

 

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Any company that uses the term 'fossil diesel' really should think about it. Diesel made from vegetable oil and animal fat is nothing new, and there is no way it could be produced on the same scale 'fossil diesel' is lol. I wouldn't run that stuff with the injectors we run.

Fossil diesel LOL
 
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I can't take any company seriously that just barfs trendy feel good words. I'd look into more then the main page, but I don't need their cookies...

Nothing wrong with bio diesel it's great. Not sure it's practical on a mass scale. Sucks in the winter though.

I've ran B100 quite a bit since we have available here. Since my truck isn't a daily now though I haven't ran it in years. As far as I know most the stuff at the pumps is B10.
 

gmduramax

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Has anyone seen this? I know nothing other than I just saw it.

Haven’t heard about that but certain stations in California are using renewable diesel. Less smoke and you get better mileage if you mix it 50/50 with regular diesel. Cetane rating is higher but energy content is lower just like biodiesel.
 

2004LB7

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Haven’t heard about that but certain stations in California are using renewable diesel. Less smoke and you get better mileage if you mix it 50/50 with regular diesel. Cetane rating is higher but energy content is lower just like biodiesel.
I have a few of those propel stations near me that sell it. price used to be competitive but are now no better then dino diesel. I've yet to see any improvement in MPG but I've seen a drop when using it. mixed or not it wasn't worth it to me.
 

gmduramax

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I have a few of those propel stations near me that sell it. price used to be competitive but are now no better then dino diesel. I've yet to see any improvement in MPG but I've seen a drop when using it. mixed or not it wasn't worth it to me.
I noticed on normal trucks it’s worse mpg and performance. But anything with big injectors it’s very apparent.
 

2004LB7

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I noticed on normal trucks it’s worse mpg and performance. But anything with big injectors it’s very apparent.
I've got larger injectors in my TDI but they are probably still smaller then even my stock Duramax injectors. 😁
 

gmduramax

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I've got larger injectors in my TDI but they are probably still smaller then even my stock Duramax injectors. 😁
You didn’t get better mileage with a 50/50 blend? I would drive to sac all the time to get a 55 gallon drum of propel 🤣
 

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I had a neighbor with a Mercedes 300TE maybe, gosh that was so long ago I can't even remember, it was a diesel that he converted to "renewable diesel"
His trick was to go to McDonalds and other fast food joints and take their waste and just run it off that. He drove that car for years. I seem to recall that he only quit driving it because there were parts that you just couldn't find anymore. I think he junked it.
 

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i use to run 50/50 engine oil/diesel in my 02. helped i worked at a shop back then so i could monitor the used oil. used a 10 micron filter to pump it out of the tank into my truck after filling it 1/2 way with diesel. never had an issue. now trying to run atf and diesel, that wound up killing injectors in a heart beat.
 

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i use to run 50/50 engine oil/diesel in my 02. helped i worked at a shop back then so i could monitor the used oil. used a 10 micron filter to pump it out of the tank into my truck after filling it 1/2 way with diesel. never had an issue. now trying to run atf and diesel, that wound up killing injectors in a heart beat.
Do you think it is the detergents in the ATF that destroys the injector? My thought is that maybe its acting like a solvent and reducing the normal lubricity in the fuel...
 

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i use to run 50/50 engine oil/diesel in my 02. helped i worked at a shop back then so i could monitor the used oil. used a 10 micron filter to pump it out of the tank into my truck after filling it 1/2 way with diesel. never had an issue. now trying to run atf and diesel, that wound up killing injectors in a heart beat.
I ran about three drums worth of ATF in my truck. thinned it a little with regular unleaded, maybe 5-10% and filtered through my centrifuge and some whole house water filters. ran pretty good. very much like diesel. truck still runs great with the same injectors years later. I'd do it again if I can find a source of ATF

I also ran a drum of used hydraulic oil. took a little more thinning but also worked well
 

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Do you think it is the detergents in the ATF that destroys the injector? My thought is that maybe its acting like a solvent and reducing the normal lubricity in the fuel...

thats what i was figuring. i got 10k out of it before injectors started dropping like flies. I monitored balance rates like a hawk back then because of the 50/50 engine oil and diesel i was running. after about 4k on atf, they started climbing away from 0.

maybe the injectors were just on their way out and it was coincidence that i swapped fuel at that point but no way ill try it again. I know 7.3 and 12v cummins guys swear its no issue but they also run different injection systems.

this was all on LB7 stuff before i went to LLY
 
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1FastBrick

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thats what i was figuring. i got 10k out of it before injectors started dropping like flies. I monitored balance rates like a hawk back then because of the 50/50 engine oil and diesel i was running. after about 4k on atf, they started climbing away from 0.

maybe the injectors were just on their way out and it was coincidence that i swapped fuel at that point but no way ill try it again. I know 7.3 and 12v cummins guys swear its no issue but they also run different injection systems.

this was all on LB7 stuff before i went to LLY
Interesting!!!