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Old 09-13-2019, 04:15 PM
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Buddy sent me this today just after he sent some logs in.

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Old 09-13-2019, 04:33 PM
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Na heís been in a lawsuit against the epa for quite some time. I donít think he came through based on that
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Old 09-13-2019, 05:08 PM
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..and yet another vendor hit by the government.
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IMHO, I think it has more do with social media. The more you post, like, and link to others Including those that are "breaking the law" and tag you, The bigger the target is on your back.

While looking into this issue, I came across this link at alligator performance.

https://www.alligatorperformance.com/prohibited

Now I have never bought from or done business with them but I think this is the trend you will start to see over the next year to avoid fines.
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Old 09-13-2019, 11:39 PM
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IMHO, I think it has more do with social media. The more you post, like, and link to others Including those that are "breaking the law" and tag you, The bigger the target is on your back.

While looking into this issue, I came across this link at alligator performance.

https://www.alligatorperformance.com/prohibited

Now I have never bought from or done business with them but I think this is the trend you will start to see over the next year to avoid fines.
I agree, I do a ton of business with XDP and they recently have discontinued selling all off-road or race products for good.
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Old 09-14-2019, 04:24 AM
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I do a lot of business with alligator. There are other alternatives but I think I'm done buying exhausts and other related hard parts. If this many suppliers are stopping that makes me nervous.

I've flipped my 15 ford back and forth. I like the sound and fuel mileage of the low restriction way. Power is noticeably more too. But the complient 180hp over tune is sporty for sure. Now that I have my lb7 that's "allowed" to be loud and smoke I'll probably put the Ford back the way it was made. With as big of a tune as I can of course. It will pretty much only get used to pull the camper and go on family trips. The lb7 will be the daily

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Reason number 1,000,000 why I love my 2002 federal LB7.
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I wonder if the EPA's stance has gone so far to include removing cat converters on LLYs and LBZs?? If so, the only trucks we're going to be able to completely modify and still run on the street are Fed LB7s.
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its A federal offense to remove emissions and has been for some time. Just because your local law doesn’t have emissions for diesels and doesn’t check it doesn’t mean it hasn’t been illegal. Now they are just enforcing it. We’ve been driving with straight piped diesels since before time and it was illegal then. It’s illegal now. We just have more attention.
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Old 09-14-2019, 04:59 PM
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Just like when h&s and edge got busted years ago. Epa uses them as a example. I'm surprised PPEI lasted this long.
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I wonder if the EPA's stance has gone so far to include removing cat converters on LLYs and LBZs?? If so, the only trucks we're going to be able to completely modify and still run on the street are Fed LB7s.


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Nope, canít even mod those unless everything has a EPA/CARB approved stamp. This includes tuning too. All the shops out here that got hit canít/wonít even tune lb7/lly/lbz even if they are 100% stock because next to no one has tunes approved by epa/carb. Itís extremely costly from what Iím told and any little change done in the tune must then be resubmitted to be approved again. Banks is one of the few with tunes but thatís just canned tuning.

Itís seriously absurd shit and pretty much driving us back to boxed tunes, assuming that even happens
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Old 09-15-2019, 07:21 AM
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I didn't realize PPEI sold anything for "On-Highway" use...
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Something I think a few guys are missing here, tuning IS tampering with an emissions control device. That means even tuning one is illegal.


The saddest part, it’s not about the environment, it’s just another money grab.
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Nope, canít even mod those unless everything has a EPA/CARB approved stamp. This includes tuning too. All the shops out here that got hit canít/wonít even tune lb7/lly/lbz even if they are 100% stock because next to no one has tunes approved by epa/carb. Itís extremely costly from what Iím told and any little change done in the tune must then be resubmitted to be approved again. Banks is one of the few with tunes but thatís just canned tuning.

Itís seriously absurd shit and pretty much driving us back to boxed tunes, assuming that even happens
Ah, beat me to it
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