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Old 08-29-2016, 04:17 PM
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Ok hope I don't get flamed for this, I know a lot of people are curious and not that I would ever do this hehe but just wondering something. Ok farm diesel is dyed red, and we all know the consequences if we get pulled over and tank dipped. Ok now regular diesel is sometimes green depends on where you live and biodiesel is usually brown. Ok so why not take red dyed fuel and experiment with green dye to make it brown so If you get dipped it comes out as brown and not red?
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Old 08-29-2016, 04:22 PM
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Does bio diesel smell like regular diesel? Maybe they could tell by how it smells
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Old 08-29-2016, 04:33 PM
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I don't think the green will overcome the red.. Hence why it takes a long time to get all the red out of your tank..

Half the trucks I work on have red fuel in them.
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Old 08-29-2016, 04:39 PM
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Think about it. Is the risk worth the reward? To me it isn't. I'll just keep paying $2.25 and be happy.
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Old 08-29-2016, 04:44 PM
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1 or 2 gal of red and 25gals of green and you might not notice the red.
Red is easy to get out of your tank we go back on forth all the time. On truck we use on site then put them back on the road after the project.

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Old 08-29-2016, 04:53 PM
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It will take straight yellow to make the red any kind of shade of brown. Green won't do it without a lot of it so you loose the point of doing it
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Old 08-29-2016, 04:54 PM
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Yeah not sure how that would hold up in court though, it's a dip test not a smell test lol. yeah I hear you 2.25 is good now, great even but what about when it goes back up to 4-5 a gallon. I plan on making bio but even still I have read these trucks you shouldn't run 100% bio which is BS but that's another complaint all together. I never used red fuel so not even sure "how red" it is. Maybe when I get back to the states i'll experiment. I have diesel generator anyways so can use it in that.
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Old 08-30-2016, 05:11 AM
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Yeah not sure how that would hold up in court though, it's a dip test not a smell test lol. yeah I hear you 2.25 is good now, great even but what about when it goes back up to 4-5 a gallon. I plan on making bio but even still I have read these trucks you shouldn't run 100% bio which is BS but that's another complaint all together. I never used red fuel so not even sure "how red" it is. Maybe when I get back to the states i'll experiment. I have diesel generator anyways so can use it in that.
It's really red. Can't even see thru the fuel
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It turns orange... lol...
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Old 08-29-2016, 05:57 PM
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It turns yellow and an orangish pinkish color depending on how much you mix.

They still know, it still smells worse, the dye makes the old shitty mechanical Detroit smell for that reason, and if they're unsure they can lab test the fuel.

Best two ways to get out of it,

I mixed 5 gal of used motor oil per 100 gal of fuel to turn it black. Then say you run an 20/80 waste oil mixture.

Second is don't run it.

If you farm or are around any type of farm stuff don't run it, you'll get caught.

If your truck looks like a mall crawler 9 times out of 10 you'll never get a second look.

I know guys that ran it for 100's of 1000's of miles and never got glimpsed at, seen guys run it a week and get popped.
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The color of the fuel doesn't matter. If no road tax is charged on that fuel, then a red dye is added. No matter what you do, if it glows under a black light during a dip test, you just failed. Yes you can dye it to change the color to the naked eye, but you can't change the fact that the dye will glow when checked. If for any reason the black light reacts with your fuel and makes it glow, you're guilty. Hence why people don't get in trouble for adding additives that dye the fuel red as it just makes it look red, hut won't react under a black light.
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The color of the fuel doesn't matter. If no road tax is charged on that fuel, then a red dye is added. No matter what you do, if it glows under a black light during a dip test, you just failed. Yes you can dye it to change the color to the naked eye, but you can't change the fact that the dye will glow when checked. If for any reason the black light reacts with your fuel and makes it glow, you're guilty. Hence why people don't get in trouble for adding additives that dye the fuel red as it just makes it look red, hut won't react under a black light.
Makes sense, I know people who add transmission fluid which should give it some red tint.
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I did fueling for hydraulic fracturing crews. It doesn't take much red to contaminate a 1000gal tank of GREEN. 5 gallons will turn it PINK.
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If your putting red in a truck with a name on the side you are asking for trouble . Not sure how other states are but here in Maryland I have never heard of someone in a regular truck getting dipped , just dumps and tractors
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