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Old 02-08-2020, 10:01 PM
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Default Perfect turbo for 100% injectors LBZ

All things aside what would be the best single charger for 100% exergys in my lbz with only maximum power in mind? Iím thinking either a box sxe476/83 or the stainless 5 blade 476/96. Would compounds be that much more effective power wise than a t4 valley charger ? Any opinions/suggestions welcome


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Old 02-08-2020, 10:03 PM
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Correction. Sxe476/87


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Just a toy, maybe eventually get it on the track


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No budget really just donít want to go bigger than a 100% injector. Goal would to be make 1000 with a single turbo and maybe a little spray. Itís gonna be used for just having fun with. I have a stock lbz for daily and any towing needs.


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No budget really just donít want to go bigger than a 100% injector. Goal would to be make 1000 with a single turbo and maybe a little spray. Itís gonna be used for just having fun with. I have a stock lbz for daily and any towing needs.


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Lets put aside the need for a built motor etc. I would argue that a good 476/87/0.90 or 1.00 t4 is one of the most fun street turbos when paired with fuel and a good converter (Goerend J). Can still easily daily the truck, spools pretty good (especially when unlocked), and will come close to your HP goals (break 1k on spray).
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Lets put aside the need for a built motor etc. I would argue that a good 476/87/0.90 or 1.00 t4 is one of the most fun street turbos when paired with fuel and a good converter (Goerend J). Can still easily daily the truck, spools pretty good (especially when unlocked), and will come close to your HP goals (break 1k on spray).


Thanks for the opinion. How do you think the stainless diesel 5 blade 475/87/1.0 compares to the box sxe 476? Stainless diesel also offers an 83 turbine wheel on the 475. They have a 476/96/1.1 but thatís pretty big on the exhaust side for the fuel Iím going with for now.


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Thanks for the opinion. How do you think the stainless diesel 5 blade 475/87/1.0 compares to the box sxe 476? Stainless diesel also offers an 83 turbine wheel on the 475. They have a 476/96/1.1 but thatís pretty big on the exhaust side for the fuel Iím going with for now.


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I personally think youíd benefit from a different turbo that stainless. In my experience the 5 blade can make a touch more power at peak but they give that up for drivability. A higher blade count wheel IMO offers better transient response at lower shaft speeds.

There are tons of other turbo manufacturers. Forced Inductions, box Borg SXE, Fleece, Bullseye, Comp etc.




You do NOT want a 96 turbine on something youíre going to daily or drive often. I have a 80/96/1.10 t6 on my truck now and wouldnít recommended it for the weekend warrior. The 87 turbine is the ideal match for a 76 wheel on a street truck and is super proven.
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2) DD/Tow Rig: 2002 LB7 CCSB, Leather, Loaded
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I personally think youíd benefit from a different turbo that stainless. In my experience the 5 blade can make a touch more power at peak but they give that up for drivability. A higher blade count wheel IMO offers better transient response at lower shaft speeds.



There are tons of other turbo manufacturers. Forced Inductions, box Borg SXE, Fleece, Bullseye, Comp etc.









You do NOT want a 96 turbine on something youíre going to daily or drive often. I have a 80/96/1.10 t6 on my truck now and wouldnít recommended it for the weekend warrior. The 87 turbine is the ideal match for a 76 wheel on a street truck and is super proven.


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With that 476, 100 overs are a good injectors but i would suggested you run a stroker pump or dual pumps.
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With that 476, 100 overs are a good injectors but i would suggested you run a stroker pump or dual pumps.
I'd agree. I'm a fan of a stroker pump as it's less clutter and less to worry about in terms of throwing a belt, less plumbing, no need for a controller that could fail etc.
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With that 476, 100 overs are a good injectors but i would suggested you run a stroker pump or dual pumps.


Yeah I am looking at either 12 or 14 mm stroker


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