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Old 05-28-2017, 12:01 PM
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You should look into kryptonite front end parts. They build a badass kit it's bout 1400 bucks but it comes with HD tie rods, center link, pitman arm, cognito braces, and hardware. It's mostly if not all lifetime warranty. Way thicker and tougher. It would support high hp launches if that was in your future lol. And you can buy just the individual pieces instead of dropping 1400 at one time. They make stage 1, 2 and 3 kits. You don't have to ditch the leveling kit. I have a 6 in lift and with supporting front end parts that I have I don't have an issue. If the installer is good and the kit is good the geometry of everything will be pretty good. Leveling kits I heard they tweak shit which is bad. Lift pump is a must, I recommend airdog II 4G 165 lift pump, don't do the Cat fuel filters it's dumb it doesn't separate water out of your fuel. Personal opinion. If you don't have the few grand for the transmission I'd focus on your transmission temperature since that is one of the biggest factors in as transmission going out get a good aftermarket transmission cooler, deep vented trans pan and a shift kit. Probably a deeper vented rear diff pan too. Of course efi live too. Good luck. That's just some of the stuff you should get. Tip of the ice berg lol.

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Old 05-28-2017, 12:58 PM
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You should look into kryptonite front end parts. They build a badass kit it's bout 1400 bucks but it comes with HD tie rods, center link, pitman arm, cognito braces, and hardware. It's mostly if not all lifetime warranty. Way thicker and tougher. It would support high hp launches if that was in your future lol. And you can buy just the individual pieces instead of dropping 1400 at one time. They make stage 1, 2 and 3 kits. You don't have to ditch the leveling kit. I have a 6 in lift and with supporting front end parts that I have I don't have an issue. If the installer is good and the kit is good the geometry of everything will be pretty good. Leveling kits I heard they tweak shit which is bad. Lift pump is a must, I recommend airdog II 4G 165 lift pump, don't do the Cat fuel filters it's dumb it doesn't separate water out of your fuel. Personal opinion. If you don't have the few grand for the transmission I'd focus on your transmission temperature since that is one of the biggest factors in as transmission going out get a good aftermarket transmission cooler, deep vented trans pan and a shift kit. Probably a deeper vented rear diff pan too. Of course efi live too. Good luck. That's just some of the stuff you should get. Tip of the ice berg lol.

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He doesn't have to ditch the leveling kit but there's a huge difference between that and a true lift kit. Your 6 inch kit moves all the parts down 6 inches to give 6 inches of lift. A leveling kit just changes the torsion bar position and puts everything in more of a bind than needed. Almost always will launch bad with any sort of leveling kit with bad cv angles.

Also the shift kit on the 5 speed allisons is more money than it's worth. No real improvement.
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Old 05-28-2017, 01:05 PM
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He doesn't have to ditch the leveling kit but there's a huge difference between that and a true lift kit. Your 6 inch kit moves all the parts down 6 inches to give 6 inches of lift. A leveling kit just changes the torsion bar position and puts everything in more of a bind than needed. Almost always will launch bad with any sort of leveling kit with bad cv angles.

Also the shift kit on the 5 speed allisons is more money than it's worth. No real improvement.
I just read another guys comment is why I said he doesn't have to. Also that's why I said my lift kit is nice everything is proper and I knew that most leveling kits do that. But i didn't know that about that transmission so it doesn't do anything at all? My transgo cost me like 50 bucks makes a huge difference for me.

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Old 05-28-2017, 01:59 PM
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I just read another guys comment is why I said he doesn't have to. Also that's why I said my lift kit is nice everything is proper and I knew that most leveling kits do that. But i didn't know that about that transmission so it doesn't do anything at all? My transgo cost me like 50 bucks makes a huge difference for me.

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Yeah the 6 speeds it makes a good difference but not so much on the 5 speeds
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Old 05-28-2017, 02:17 PM
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It's a waste of money in then 5 speeds
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Old 05-28-2017, 03:09 PM
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You need to drop the trans to install in a 5 speed

Just one of the few dumb things said in here


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Old 05-28-2017, 06:20 PM
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You need to drop the trans to install in a 5 speed

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Sorry for saying something dumb. The truck I have is the first gm I have owned and know about. Didn't know any of this about the 5 speed.

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Old 05-28-2017, 07:10 PM
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Welcome to the site.

Never had to do sleeves, but to install tie rod sleeves, mark the tie rod and count the number of turns to get it out. Install the sleeve, count the number of turns and put the mark back where it was.

I suggest moving that skid steer back a bit on the trailer, especially if you need 4wd. The grabbing and jerking of the front end due to traction issues will bend the tie rods. Allison transmissions do a great job when you stay in spec of what they are rated for, get outside of that and pay the piper.

I think PPE sells the Mike L. upgraded cooler kit. Mike is the ALL KNOWING ALLISON GURU. If Mike tells you to do something, just do it.
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Old 05-28-2017, 07:57 PM
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I also agree with moving the skid steer back. I have the same exact skid steer. I've found it tows best when I load it on the trailer backwards and put the drive gear almost directly over the front axles.

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