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Old 02-14-2017, 07:45 AM
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From what I can tell they are trying to walk the fine line between too much release of water and damaging downstream, and too little and not having the capacity ready for the coming storm.

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they better get their ass's to work and start throwing some big rocks in the eroded areas so they can let water out after the storm to come!


meanwhile in az, we are just glad to see our water tables coming up
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Old 02-14-2017, 09:50 AM
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So now there is talk that in 2007 this issue with the emergency spillway was not going to work as planed with all of the dirt at the base and engineers warning about erosion.

Politicians at the time didn't want to spend anything to fix it when the water was low.
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Here is a drone video from yesterday.

http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/cal...132391239.html
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Here is a drone video from yesterday.

http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/cal...132391239.html
Is the spillway gone now? I'm confused here.
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Those pictures are of the emergency spillway which is nothing more than a dirt hill and was only meant to be used in extreme circumstances... The normal spillway developed the large hole in the middle of the concrete that you see in the pics. 2 different spillways, same dam.

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Those pictures are of the emergency spillway which is nothing more than a dirt hill and was only meant to be used in extreme circumstances... The normal spillway developed the large hole in the middle of the concrete that you see in the pics. 2 different spillways, same dam.

Ahhhh. Ok. So basically they have it wide open and the emergency spill way is in use and it still isn't enough.
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Mandatory evacuations have been lifted.

Reports are now out that this problem has been known about since at least 2005. Local government, California governor and the bush administration didn't want to spend any money to correct it. Seems some are out for blood now looking for the ones responsible.

It is also raising the question of how many other dams or large structures have major issues the have been ignored by our government and responsible parties.

A full scale investigation will likely start soon
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Mandatory evacuations have been lifted.

Reports are now out that this problem has been known about since at least 2005. Local government, California governor and the bush administration didn't want to spend any money to correct it. Seems some are out for blood now looking for the ones responsible.

It is also raising the question of how many other dams or large structures have major issues the have been ignored by our government and responsible parties.

A full scale investigation will likely start soon
One question.

Who oversees the damn?
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Mandatory evacuations have been lifted.

Reports are now out that this problem has been known about since at least 2005. Local government, California governor and the bush administration didn't want to spend any money to correct it. Seems some are out for blood now looking for the ones responsible.

It is also raising the question of how many other dams or large structures have major issues the have been ignored by our government and responsible parties.

A full scale investigation will likely start soon
This is happening a lot. Nothing put back into the infrastructure to prevent future problems until its to late. Like this scenario.
Look at the city of Los Angeles. 75-100 year old water mains breaking. They patch them until it breaks some where else.
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This is happening a lot. Nothing put back into the infrastructure to prevent future problems until its to late. Like this scenario.
Look at the city of Los Angeles. 75-100 year old water mains breaking. They patch them until it breaks some where else.
That's everywhere, not just LA. People have been screaming about the infrastructure in this country for decades. It's not all on the fed .gov though as many times the utilities are independent and city/county owned and they don't have usage rates in place sufficient enough for maintenance of these aging systems, much less future expansion. They don't have the rates they need to maintain these systems because they're elected officials (mayors/county judges) and won't raise them because they won't get elected in the next cycle. So these municipalities depend on state and fed. grants to be able to afford things. As a tax payer, it ticks me off. But on the other hand, if the billing rates went up 10x, that'd tick people off too.
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Mandatory evacuations have been lifted.

Reports are now out that this problem has been known about since at least 2005. Local government, California governor and the bush administration didn't want to spend any money to correct it. Seems some are out for blood now looking for the ones responsible.

It is also raising the question of how many other dams or large structures have major issues the have been ignored by our government and responsible parties.

A full scale investigation will likely start soon
There was a documentary on the discovery channel some time ago about major dam disasters and how many in our country that is insufficient for the new weather patterns we've been experiencing, said it'd be many billions to replace and repair the number of dams that need the work.
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That's everywhere, not just LA. People have been screaming about the infrastructure in this country for decades. It's not all on the fed .gov though as many times the utilities are independent and city/county owned and they don't have usage rates in place sufficient enough for maintenance of these aging systems, much less future expansion. They don't have the rates they need to maintain these systems because they're elected officials (mayors/county judges) and won't raise them because they won't get elected in the next cycle. So these municipalities depend on state and fed. grants to be able to afford things. As a tax payer, it ticks me off. But on the other hand, if the billing rates went up 10x, that'd tick people off too.
I know its not just L.A. I only said it as an example due to I live here, unfortunately.
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There was a documentary on the discovery channel some time ago about major dam disasters and how many in our country that is insufficient for the new weather patterns we've been experiencing, said it'd be many billions to replace and repair the number of dams that need the work.
There was a series on TV a while back and the host was a contractor or building inspector that went to different states and looked at everything; bridges, roads, you name it. And his line in almost every show was the billions it will take to rebuild our infrastructure. A good series but depressing at the same time.

Found it: Inspector America

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My parents live downstream of it. My brother is currently helping them pack critical things then head to his house which is above the lake.

There's a whole back story to all this that should come out in the next few weeks. It was a whole lot more preventable then they are letting on right now...

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The back story to all this is that the Corps of Engineers screws up everything it does.
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