Duramax Diesels Forum Truck of the Week
  #46  
Old 12-09-2013, 10:29 PM
OregonDMAX's Avatar
OregonDMAX OregonDMAX is offline
NOT IN OREGON
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Goodyear, AZ
Posts: 3,574

Default

pretty sure its either or, the whole point is to prevent the roll of the stock centerlink, the straight centerlink eliminates the weak link in the original version, someone chime in and tell me if i'm wrong but i'm pretty sure they both were designed to eliminate the rolling of the stock centerlink so i don't think you want to or even can run them together.
__________________
Sean
02 CCSB
Moonshine tunes, Mike L trans
Mike L secret squirrel converter
Exergy Sportsman, 4/6 drop, LML 20's/420's
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 12-10-2013, 06:23 AM
dman777's Avatar
dman777 dman777 is offline
Hotrodder
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 283
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OregonDMAX View Post
pretty sure its either or, the whole point is to prevent the roll of the stock centerlink, the straight centerlink eliminates the weak link in the original version, someone chime in and tell me if i'm wrong but i'm pretty sure they both were designed to eliminate the rolling of the stock centerlink so i don't think you want to or even can run them together.
I understand there is no point in running a brace in a true straight centerlink. The kryptonite straight centerlink is not a true straight centerlink which allows for a better steering geometry and therefore needs braces. I'm just curious to see if the all season brace would work with the kryptonite centerlink vs cognito braces. Or maybe it would be better to go back to stock centerlink and sleeves with the all season brace if I really want better steering. I just don't want to bend/break anything while racing.
__________________
Hot Rod: 04 LLY LT 4X4: Built Motor, Built Trans, s472, 60% Sticks, Wicked Level 3 CP3, Built Front End, Rancho 9000, Traction Bars, Tuning by Kory
11.85 @ 115, 7.56 @ 92
Sold Wife's truck: 06 LBZ LT 4x4: Transgo Jr, 5" Exhaust, EFI Live by Bobo, Sleeves, Pump Rub Fix, PPE race valve, PPE airbox mod, Cognito braces, Edge CTS, AD ll 165, Bilstein 5100s, MagHytec rear diff cover, Alligator PCV reroute, SDP EGR Delete
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 12-10-2013, 07:37 AM
DaveB's Avatar
DaveB DaveB is offline
Hotrodder
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Northeast Indiana
Posts: 409
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dman777 View Post
I understand there is no point in running a brace in a true straight centerlink. The kryptonite straight centerlink is not a true straight centerlink which allows for a better steering geometry and therefore needs braces. I'm just curious to see if the all season brace would work with the kryptonite centerlink vs cognito braces. Or maybe it would be better to go back to stock centerlink and sleeves with the all season brace if I really want better steering. I just don't want to bend/break anything while racing.
What is it you don't like? I went from stock centerlink with brace and rare parts tie rods to the Kryptonite setup with cognito braces and didn't really notice any difference other than the steering feels tighter (In a good way). No loss of turning radius, no odd tire wear, etc. Both work well but I'm less worried about launching hard with the kryptonite.
__________________
07 CCSB 4X4 LBZ
Thanks To:
Jeremy@Wagler Competition
Andrew, Greg, & Branson@S&S Diesel Motorsports
Evan@Limitless Diesel
Mark@Danville Performance
Chris@ARP
Anthony@XDP
Matt Hatfield
LSN Powder Coating
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 12-10-2013, 07:56 AM
S Phinney's Avatar
S Phinney S Phinney is offline
Hotrodder
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Quncy, Fl
Posts: 3,789

Default

Kryptonite is some really fine parts. They work great. You can't go wrong using them.

Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk
__________________
03 GMC 4x4 CC/SB Intake, Dual Exhaust, built motor by Me, Cognito Kryptonite Suspension upgrades, Custom Traction Bars by Me, Suncoast Trans, 1055-1 Convertor, Two AirDog II 200's, Billet Sump, Venom Tuning AKA Me, Custom Fabbed Fuel system, Flexlite Fans, Best Time to date 7.14 at 98.21 mph 1211.8HP 1954.5 FT/Lb torque
2013 LML Daily Driver, 5" FloPro Exhaust, Venom Tuning, Ad 165 4G Lift Pump, Upcoming HSP Billet Bridge And Piping, Upcoming CP3 Conversion
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 12-10-2013, 08:45 AM
CarolinaHD CarolinaHD is offline
Hotrodder
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Concord, NC
Posts: 818
Default

I don't have the brace but i run the kryptonite centerlink, FWIW the idler and pitman arm studs are not moved from the stock location, SO i would venture to GUESS that the brace would still work. Just crawled under my truck and took a look. The only thing that might make a difference is the thickness difference between the centerlinks. Other than that it looks like it'd fit just fine.
__________________
Alex

LBZ CCSB 4x4
EFI Live
RDL Y-bridge
166,000 miles
Sold


2003 C&C lb7/zf6
275,000 miles
LBZ & 4x4 Conversion in progress...
Turned into a frame off restomod
Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old 12-10-2013, 09:07 AM
dman777's Avatar
dman777 dman777 is offline
Hotrodder
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 283
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveB View Post
What is it you don't like? I went from stock centerlink with brace and rare parts tie rods to the Kryptonite setup with cognito braces and didn't really notice any difference other than the steering feels tighter (In a good way). No loss of turning radius, no odd tire wear, etc. Both work well but I'm less worried about launching hard with the kryptonite.
Yea I like the kryptonite setup. I don't have first hand experience but I have read a lot of good things about kryptonite. They seem to have the best balance between strength and steering geometry. The only thing I don't like is the price. I currently have a true straight centerlink and it sucks driving on the street. Tire scrub is bad and turning radius sucks. It is great for the track but not the street IOP. I would like to go back to a stock centerlink with sleeves and the all season brace but I'm worried about breaking something. I would think the ultimate setup would be the kryptonite kit plus the all season brace but that is more than I want to spend right now.
__________________
Hot Rod: 04 LLY LT 4X4: Built Motor, Built Trans, s472, 60% Sticks, Wicked Level 3 CP3, Built Front End, Rancho 9000, Traction Bars, Tuning by Kory
11.85 @ 115, 7.56 @ 92
Sold Wife's truck: 06 LBZ LT 4x4: Transgo Jr, 5" Exhaust, EFI Live by Bobo, Sleeves, Pump Rub Fix, PPE race valve, PPE airbox mod, Cognito braces, Edge CTS, AD ll 165, Bilstein 5100s, MagHytec rear diff cover, Alligator PCV reroute, SDP EGR Delete
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 12-10-2013, 09:12 AM
CarolinaHD CarolinaHD is offline
Hotrodder
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Concord, NC
Posts: 818
Default

If i was to go back and do it all again(hindsight) i would stick with the stock centerlink, kryptonite tie rods, tonys brace, and the ultimate idler arm just for good measure. Best combo for the $$ IMO
__________________
Alex

LBZ CCSB 4x4
EFI Live
RDL Y-bridge
166,000 miles
Sold


2003 C&C lb7/zf6
275,000 miles
LBZ & 4x4 Conversion in progress...
Turned into a frame off restomod
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 02-17-2014, 11:08 AM
clrussell's Avatar
clrussell clrussell is offline
pro-procrastinator
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 4,816
Default

Just received mine via ups today, looks great. Is the material for sure nylon on where it rubs? Just wondering what it is
__________________
07 crew long classic, stock minus some pretty parts

Thanks to everyone on this forum who has helped me and those whom I bought parts from.

Special thanks to Evan, James, Russell, Mark and all the others I'm forgetting.
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 02-19-2014, 06:29 AM
Tony Burkhard's Avatar
Tony Burkhard Tony Burkhard is offline
Allseason Diesel Per.
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Harbor Beach Mi
Posts: 696
Default

yes nylon. polish the front diff where it rides please.
__________________
D-MAX ENGINE & ALLISON TRANS BUILDER

http://dirtyhookerdiesel.com
Spools & 38-Spline Pulling/Drag Racing Axle Shafts
Billet Engine Plates, Sled Pulling Performance Upgrades,
Allison Trans Blankets, PCV Reroute Kits,
High Flow Intake Manifolds 2001-2010 Duramax Diesel

Up to 150% more airflow and over 40 HP gain
Six time TTPA points champ 2006 to 2011

Member of the 1200 HP club if there was one.

Home to all the "Dirty Hookers"
DH 1.0, DH 2.0, and the new DH 3.0(XXX)
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 02-19-2014, 03:49 PM
werewolf's Avatar
werewolf werewolf is offline
Hotrodder
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: eastern Noth Carolina
Posts: 118
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Burkhard View Post
yes nylon. polish the front diff where it rides please.
This may be a stupid question but can someone explain the polishing part. Are we just taking some fine sandpaper or something and smoothing off the metal or is it completely different?
__________________
2006 GMC 2500 CC/SB

3" downpipe
5" MBRP straight pipe axle dump
PCV REROUTE EGR Delete
EFI by Kory
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 02-19-2014, 04:35 PM
Robby Avery's Avatar
Robby Avery Robby Avery is offline
GM TECH @ FENDER GMC
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Norman Park, Georgia
Posts: 601

Default

Looks like its time to do some r&r parts ill make the cognito stuff my paper weights at work
__________________
2006 Chevy 2500HD LBZ Duramax Summit White CCSB Tan (neutral) leather LT3 pkg w/sunroof OEM bra 4x4, ISSPRO EV, ATS Twin CP3's, Built Allison, Eaton E-locker front stock G80 rear, Kennedy Twin pump filter combo kit, Snow Perf Stage 2 w/m injection, 4in to 5in banks tip, HM Big K&N, Mickey Thompson Baja Claw TTC 315/75/16 on stock rims, Rancho RS9000XL, Fabtech HD TR, Cognito P&I Brace kit, DD/Puller/Work Truck



2002 Chevy 2500HD LB7 Duramax Summit White CCSB Grey (neutral) leather LT3 pkg OEM bra 4x4, Kennedy Twin Pump Filter Combo Kit, ISSPRO EV, PPE Boost Valve, DTS Built Allison, MikeL Cooler, ATS Billet Flexplate, DTS 3in DS IC pipe, Bill's 5in CAI (White), Big K&N, 4in to 7in black stack, Mickey Thompson Baja Claw TTC 315/75/16 on stock rims, Cognito P&I Brace kit, Sleeves, Energy Sway bar Kit, DD/Puller/Work truck



Special Thanks: (David) DTS, (Guy) Socal Diesel, (Nick & crew) DuramaxTuner, (Dan) PPE, (John) Kennedy Diesel, (Tony) All Season
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 02-19-2014, 04:49 PM
OregonDMAX's Avatar
OregonDMAX OregonDMAX is offline
NOT IN OREGON
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Goodyear, AZ
Posts: 3,574

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by werewolf View Post
This may be a stupid question but can someone explain the polishing part. Are we just taking some fine sandpaper or something and smoothing off the metal or is it completely different?
Just sand down the sharp edges and take away any aluminum slag from the casting. Make it nice and smooth so the Teflon doesn't get chewed up by rough aluminum. I just used an angled air cutoff tool with a polishing pad attachment and buffed it all up so there was nothing I could even catch a fingernail on.
__________________
Sean
02 CCSB
Moonshine tunes, Mike L trans
Mike L secret squirrel converter
Exergy Sportsman, 4/6 drop, LML 20's/420's
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 02-19-2014, 05:43 PM
henery97's Avatar
henery97 henery97 is offline
Hotrodder
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 202

Default

For you guys with lifted trucks you can fab a brace like this in a few hours. Just take your time and make sure you get the right angle on the pitman & idler arm so it barely contacts the diff and doesn't contact the frame on full lock. I made one for each of my trucks. Is it as good as Tony's? Absolutely not. But it does work great and I have $0 in it.
__________________
17 Denali L5P
unreliable POS

07 LBZ/alli cc/sb
s475/stock, race casts, exergy 60s
12.5@108mph

85 K5 Jimmy
6.2L Diesel
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 02-20-2014, 11:19 AM
clrussell's Avatar
clrussell clrussell is offline
pro-procrastinator
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 4,816
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Burkhard View Post
yes nylon. polish the front diff where it rides please.
Thanks tony! And I'll polish it before I install
__________________
07 crew long classic, stock minus some pretty parts

Thanks to everyone on this forum who has helped me and those whom I bought parts from.

Special thanks to Evan, James, Russell, Mark and all the others I'm forgetting.
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 02-20-2014, 07:05 PM
werewolf's Avatar
werewolf werewolf is offline
Hotrodder
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: eastern Noth Carolina
Posts: 118
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OregonDMAX View Post
Just sand down the sharp edges and take away any aluminum slag from the casting. Make it nice and smooth so the Teflon doesn't get chewed up by rough aluminum. I just used an angled air cutoff tool with a polishing pad attachment and buffed it all up so there was nothing I could even catch a fingernail on.
Preciate it!
__________________
2006 GMC 2500 CC/SB

3" downpipe
5" MBRP straight pipe axle dump
PCV REROUTE EGR Delete
EFI by Kory
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vB.Sponsors