Duramax Diesels Forum Truck of the Week
  #1  
Old 06-29-2017, 08:03 AM
zakkb787's Avatar
zakkb787 zakkb787 is offline
<thatís not me...
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Granite Falls NC
Posts: 1,282

Default Upper control arms

Okay guys so I took my truck in for an alignment today and my passenger ball joint he said had over an inch of play SO. time for something to happen. Right now there is absolutely no way I can afford a set of $500 cognito control arms. The truck has the t bars cranked just a little. Doesn't sit anywhere near level. I'm thinking 1 or no more than 2 inches above flat cv angles. Should I go with stock stuff and just do a cheap replacement or I've saw the new zone control arms. Look like a good piece. Can get them for around 370. Or should I go kryptonite? They have bolt in ball joints and are $437. What do y'all think?
__________________
Without a duramax... hopefully not for long.

Other toys:
1982 K10 6.2 Detroit diesel/sm465/np205 with 4 inch lift and 35s. And itís currently broke
2011 Yamaha YFZ450X
2003 Yamaha YZ250
2003 Kawasaki Z1000

Last edited by zakkb787; 06-29-2017 at 08:09 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-29-2017, 08:11 AM
Slowmax's Avatar
Slowmax Slowmax is offline
Build what others' won't
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: United States
Posts: 464
Default

Also am do for another set of upper control arm's, but I am lowered. What is everyone running these day's? I had flat cv's and Ac Delco, factory replacements'. I put on didn't make it more then a year.
__________________
02 Silverado 4 inch turbo back exhaust with muff, A.E.M intake with cone filter, EFi live.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-29-2017, 08:13 AM
Awenta's Avatar
Awenta Awenta is offline
Hotrodder
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: CT
Posts: 4,072
Default

https://www.amazon.com/Moog-RK620054...ype=automotive

Hard to beat these for the money


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Arek

2003 CCSB LT LB7 deleted

Some cool stuff, some fast stuff, some slow stuff
EFI by Kory

Special thanks to Evan@Limitless
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-29-2017, 08:45 AM
zakkb787's Avatar
zakkb787 zakkb787 is offline
<thatís not me...
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Granite Falls NC
Posts: 1,282

Default

Do these aftermarket ones make the ride better or anything? Don't they correct the angles for a slightly leveled truck?
__________________
Without a duramax... hopefully not for long.

Other toys:
1982 K10 6.2 Detroit diesel/sm465/np205 with 4 inch lift and 35s. And itís currently broke
2011 Yamaha YFZ450X
2003 Yamaha YZ250
2003 Kawasaki Z1000
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-29-2017, 08:48 AM
SoCalMike's Avatar
SoCalMike SoCalMike is offline
Hotrodder
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: SoCal
Posts: 558
Default

For a couple dollars more you can get the problem solvers.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FJ...ID=61yS5lwMfRL
__________________
LBZ
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-29-2017, 08:55 AM
SoCalMike's Avatar
SoCalMike SoCalMike is offline
Hotrodder
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: SoCal
Posts: 558
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zakkb787 View Post
Do these aftermarket ones make the ride better or anything? Don't they correct the angles for a slightly leveled truck?
All the aftermarket ones (cognito, kryptonite) give you more drop out and correct the angles to get your alignment in spec. That's about it. If you are a stock height or a little above, stick with stock like uca's in my opinion. If you are really cranking up the front or have money to burn go with aftermarket. But even then they are only a bandaid to the problem.
__________________
LBZ
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-29-2017, 08:56 AM
Budneeds2beers's Avatar
Budneeds2beers Budneeds2beers is offline
Aka Mike Honcho....
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Cali
Posts: 381

Default

I run the kryptonite arms with keys for now. I wanted the uniball arms but my thing was if it broke i can buy a ball joint at any local parts store in the us and mexico. I have beat on my truck in the Southern California desert and in some washes and trails in AZ. I do about 75 to 100 mile loops with lots of liquid talent enhancers. I havent had a problem with them and they are made in the USA. Just my $.02
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-29-2017, 09:01 AM
SoCalMike's Avatar
SoCalMike SoCalMike is offline
Hotrodder
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: SoCal
Posts: 558
Default

I think the moog problem solvers are even cheaper on Rock auto.
__________________
LBZ
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-29-2017, 09:06 AM
zakkb787's Avatar
zakkb787 zakkb787 is offline
<thatís not me...
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Granite Falls NC
Posts: 1,282

Default

My truck isn't leveled anymore I turned them way way down. Sits about an inch or 2 higher in the back. So just go with the problem solvers? I like the price point. Another off topic question. How can I get my cv angles flat at the height I'm at now. Seems like a 4 inch would lift it too much even turned all the way down. Thinking a diff drop bracket of some sort?
__________________
Without a duramax... hopefully not for long.

Other toys:
1982 K10 6.2 Detroit diesel/sm465/np205 with 4 inch lift and 35s. And itís currently broke
2011 Yamaha YFZ450X
2003 Yamaha YZ250
2003 Kawasaki Z1000
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-29-2017, 09:13 AM
Chevy1925's Avatar
Chevy1925 Chevy1925 is offline
don't know sh!t about IFS

 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Phoenix Az
Posts: 14,130

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Awenta View Post
https://www.amazon.com/Moog-RK620054...ype=automotive

Hard to beat these for the money


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
i wouldnt trust those. they more than likely use the junk Moog ball joint that will die in 10-20k.



any of the arms you posted Zack will do what you need them to. you dont need the extra down travel a cognito arm will give and you certainly dont need the stupidly overly built arms some of these places sell. id just throw a set of napa NCP part number UCA on and call it done. Actually, me personally, id jsut replace the ball joint and throw a tack on the joint so it dont pull out of the arm lol
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoshH View Post
Mike L is my role model. I want to be like him when I grow up.
James

02 LL7 2500HD CC/LB dmax/alli "The Limo"

BIG THANKS TO: Mike L, Steve, Trent, Guy, Dan, Ruben, Josh H, Scott, Brian and everyone else who has put a hand in to help me.

best time to date: 12.39

motor died/bent rods = 3/11/11
back from the dead 7:04pm 4/9/2012

Limo is back in the garage, now driving a built chevy tracker
Tailgate Crew Member #4
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06-29-2017, 09:18 AM
zakkb787's Avatar
zakkb787 zakkb787 is offline
<thatís not me...
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Granite Falls NC
Posts: 1,282

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chevy1925 View Post
i wouldnt trust those. they more than likely use the junk Moog ball joint that will die in 10-20k.



any of the arms you posted Zack will do what you need them to. you dont need the extra down travel a cognito arm will give and you certainly dont need the stupidly overly built arms some of these places sell. id just throw a set of napa NCP part number UCA on and call it done. Actually, me personally, id jsut replace the ball joint and throw a tack on the joint so it dont pull out of the arm lol
Thank you James. I'll call around this evening and see what I can find. Sucks because I'm supposed to take it to the beach tomorrow but thought it needed aligned because the passenger tire is turned a bit more than the driver. Guess that wasn't the issue

Edit: WOAH just called Napa and $130 each. I can almost get a set of upgraded ones for that. Or even a lifetime set of moog. Those are $209. Anyone used the dmaxstore xd series? $159 for both and a 3 year warranty
__________________
Without a duramax... hopefully not for long.

Other toys:
1982 K10 6.2 Detroit diesel/sm465/np205 with 4 inch lift and 35s. And itís currently broke
2011 Yamaha YFZ450X
2003 Yamaha YZ250
2003 Kawasaki Z1000

Last edited by zakkb787; 06-29-2017 at 09:25 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-29-2017, 09:22 AM
Budneeds2beers's Avatar
Budneeds2beers Budneeds2beers is offline
Aka Mike Honcho....
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Cali
Posts: 381

Default

^ this is very true.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06-29-2017, 09:25 AM
SoCalMike's Avatar
SoCalMike SoCalMike is offline
Hotrodder
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: SoCal
Posts: 558
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zakkb787 View Post
Thank you James. I'll call around this evening and see what I can find. Sucks because I'm supposed to take it to the beach tomorrow but thought it needed aligned because the passenger tire is turned a bit more than the driver. Guess that wasn't the issue

Edit: WOAH just called Napa and $130 each. I can almost get a set of upgraded ones for that. Or even a lifetime set of moog for cheaper. Anyone used the dmaxstore xd series? $159 for both and a 2 year warranty
The dmaxstore xds are mevotech upper control arms.

I would do what James said or at least the moog problem solvers
__________________
LBZ
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 06-29-2017, 09:26 AM
zakkb787's Avatar
zakkb787 zakkb787 is offline
<thatís not me...
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Granite Falls NC
Posts: 1,282

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalMike View Post
The dmaxstore xds are mevotech upper control arms.

I would do what James said or at least the moog problem solvers
I can get the problem solvers for $68. Why are they so much cheaper than the Napa brand? Is that a quality difference?
__________________
Without a duramax... hopefully not for long.

Other toys:
1982 K10 6.2 Detroit diesel/sm465/np205 with 4 inch lift and 35s. And itís currently broke
2011 Yamaha YFZ450X
2003 Yamaha YZ250
2003 Kawasaki Z1000
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 06-29-2017, 09:34 AM
Chevy1925's Avatar
Chevy1925 Chevy1925 is offline
don't know sh!t about IFS

 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Phoenix Az
Posts: 14,130

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zakkb787 View Post
I can get the problem solvers for $68. Why are they so much cheaper than the Napa brand? Is that a quality difference?
because they are on hand . i also know they use a teflon coating inside to encompass the ball and keep wear to a min when grease is not present or has thinned out. Mood problem solvers are hit and miss. they use to be the good stuff, now some are junk.

If you want to hit the beach tomorrow, go pick one of these up and throw it in

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/NCZ2...earchIndex=App

looks like they now use a circlip to keep the joint from popping out of the arm like they use to. in that case, i wouldnt even buy a new arm if the bushings are still good in your old arm.

is your other side showing movement as well or is it tight? jsut cause one is bad does not mean both are. im still on a stock original LCA ball joint with 213k, other side died at 190k.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoshH View Post
Mike L is my role model. I want to be like him when I grow up.
James

02 LL7 2500HD CC/LB dmax/alli "The Limo"

BIG THANKS TO: Mike L, Steve, Trent, Guy, Dan, Ruben, Josh H, Scott, Brian and everyone else who has put a hand in to help me.

best time to date: 12.39

motor died/bent rods = 3/11/11
back from the dead 7:04pm 4/9/2012

Limo is back in the garage, now driving a built chevy tracker
Tailgate Crew Member #4
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:01 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vB.Sponsors