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Old 11-25-2016, 11:56 AM
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Default Lbz into 02 zf6

I sold my lmm recently and still have a built long block.
I'm having trouble selling it, so I've been thinking about using it.

Found an 02 zf6 with no engine. Using a harness from Ben would like to use my lbz block, heads, vvt, ect.

I realize wiring and cooling stack will be an issue. My question is the flywheel. My lbz was balanced with a factory one from an auto truck. Do I need to order a flywheel for an 06 lly/zf truck? Or will the lb7 one be fine?
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Old 11-25-2016, 12:53 PM
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I don't know compared to an auto, but lb7 lly and the same balance and lbz is different.
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Old 11-25-2016, 01:10 PM
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I don't know compared to an auto, but lb7 lly and the same balance and lbz is different.
I knew that, I guess I answered my own question. Flywheel for an 06 lly with a zf6 should balance the same as a factory flexplate for the allison.

It will have its challenges, but it should be a fun truck and the price is right. I'm hoping to do some pulling and maybe a track day or 2 if all goes well.
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Old 11-25-2016, 01:12 PM
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I knew that, I guess I answered my own question. Flywheel for an 06 lly with a zf6 should balance the same as a factory flexplate for the allison.

It will have its challenges, but it should be a fun truck and the price is right. I'm hoping to do some pulling and maybe a track day or 2 if all goes well.
I would guess so, I'm on board for anything with a manual trans. Actually fun to drive
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Arp studs, welded water pump, 100 overs, dual fuelers, valair 1000 hp triple disc, danville efi live, fass 150, custom single s400 kit,
serious weight reduction
28x10x16 Hoosier slicks on pyos
Down on 2 leaves, t bolts gone.

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Old 11-25-2016, 06:35 PM
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Yes get a lbz flywheel


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Old 11-26-2016, 06:42 AM
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I pick the truck up today. Plan for it is to have the absolute most fun you can have in one of these trucks. I plan on pulling, racing, towing, and just being hard on the truck in general.

Thinking of doing a twin setup for the wide power band and easier to drive/tow with.

You guys have an opinion on what turbo setup would drive the best being a manual?
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Old 11-26-2016, 10:50 AM
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Beater with a heater, dont think I need to worry about keeping the exterior nice.
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Old 11-26-2016, 09:11 PM
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Hit me up if you need any help.. I've been down this exact road before minus built engine
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Old 11-27-2016, 08:15 AM
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Hit me up if you need any help.. I've been down this exact road before minus built engine
I had planned on sending you a message when I get down to business on it.
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Excited to see what turbo setup you go with, I'm having trouble deciding between n20 or a turbo.
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05 single cab lly zf6
Arp studs, welded water pump, 100 overs, dual fuelers, valair 1000 hp triple disc, danville efi live, fass 150, custom single s400 kit,
serious weight reduction
28x10x16 Hoosier slicks on pyos
Down on 2 leaves, t bolts gone.

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Old 11-28-2016, 08:33 AM
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S475 over stock has treated me well in the past.

I have the stock lbz turbo already and plan on making my own piping. I don't think there is a better option.

Lots of usable power for not a lot of dough.
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Thought I would give an update on this, since I have ran into issues with the VATS.

Truck cranks with no sound of firing or exhaust smell. Log I took shows fuel being limited by VTD fuel enable. I was told it wouldn't work without an LBZ BCM and that's correct from what I can tell. VATS is disabled and I am using an 06 LLY/ZF6 calibration.

I don't have the correct BCM currently, and I haven't gotten a reply from Ben whether he makes the LB7 to LBZ harness's anymore.

I can email the log if anyone would like to verify for me that it is the ecm pulling fuel.
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I did not have an lbz ecm.. send me a pm and I can help ya out
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Thought I would give an update on this, since I have ran into issues with the VATS.

Truck cranks with no sound of firing or exhaust smell. Log I took shows fuel being limited by VTD fuel enable. I was told it wouldn't work without an LBZ BCM and that's correct from what I can tell. VATS is disabled and I am using an 06 LLY/ZF6 calibration.

I don't have the correct BCM currently, and I haven't gotten a reply from Ben whether he makes the LB7 to LBZ harness's anymore.

I can email the log if anyone would like to verify for me that it is the ecm pulling fuel.
I got an LLY to LBZ adapter harness from him not long ago. I would think he could make you whatever you need.
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I got an LLY to LBZ adapter harness from him not long ago. I would think he could make you whatever you need.
Did you just pay online and send him a harness? His website says contact him first.
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