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Paul how come in Acoombs' thread did you say his steel would be fine, and now in this one you say it wont
Please show me where I said it would be fine?
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as far as I know Nathan used non stainless steel on at least his early twins. Mine are over 4 years old and I have no idea how many thousands of miles. Zero problems........
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That can't be right. You would have had to replace it hundreds of times by now...
I don't care what Nathan uses. Just because he builds something doesn't make it right

YA, what do I know....I just make this stuff up as I go along. It was my mistake for trying to help someone. Please use whatever you want and learn the hard way. I sick of trying to argue points that have already been proven


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i wasnt arguing just simply asking why. i didnt claim anything. just wanted info paul.
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I wasnt arguing either. All im asking is if aluminized steel "will" crack, how come my (and all of the other MPI kits) 4 1/2 year old set is still fine? Not sure I understand the comment insinuating that I dont know anything about fabricating twins or working with metal either, unless that was directed at someone else.

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I don't care what Nathan uses. Just because he builds something doesn't make it right

YA, what do I know....I just make this stuff up as I go along. It was my mistake for trying to help someone. Please use whatever you want and learn the hard way. I sick of trying to argue points that have already been proven


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Paul, its a waste if time with some of these guys. I know how you feel.
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Sorry Turbo Buick 6, I didn't realize you were the SME on this. I didn't know that after building two kits you could already know everything there is to know about building twins. I guess from now on I'll see my way out of these types of threads so as not to contradict your posts.
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Sorry Turbo Buick 6, I didn't realize you were the SME on this. I didn't know that after building two kits you could already know everything there is to know about building twins. I guess from now on I'll see my way out of these types of threads so as not to contradict your posts.
2 kits? I have been building this crap for almost 10 years. I don't make this stuff up, look at the specs for specific materials and you come up with the correct stuff. You might skate by with ms, but isn't the extra 30 bucks worth knowing you have a material intended for its useage? Im not trying to flame on anyone. Just stating proven facts. As I said, wouldn't you be willing to pay 30 bucks to have the correct material? I am here to try and help people and make suggestions. I back them with statistical data. Sure you can prob get away with less but that's not the way I do things. People are free to do what they want but I get offened when I state specs on material to try and help and people argue with it. I didn't come up with this stuff, the people that make the steel did. No hard feelings, just been having a bad day.

And as far as fatiuging goes, as far as I know I am the only person to run ms and then send it out for a destructive metalurgical analisys.
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when I get home im goin to move off topic posts to a new thread since I feel like I have booged up someone elses thread
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I wasnt arguing either. All im asking is if aluminized steel "will" crack, how come my (and all of the other MPI kits) 4 1/2 year old set is still fine? Not sure I understand the comment insinuating that I dont know anything about fabricating twins or working with metal either, unless that was directed at someone else.

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Are they MS? How do you know? I have no clue what MPI uses, that is why I am asking. Why didn't hey crack.....dont know, may luck. But I can tell you MS is not designed for over 800F.....not my opinion, its a fact. My comment was not diected twards anyone specific. Is way ment to say the correct way to select material is by service application, not oh well so and so uses it and it works. Even if it work its still the wrong material opperating outside its design limitations.

I rather some good tech to come out of a debate than for everyone to hate eachother
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i wasnt arguing just simply asking why. i didnt claim anything. just wanted info paul.
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I think he was just sayin mine wouldnt rust. They will fatigue over time from heat however. If I get 30,000 miles out of them I will be very happy.
Couldn't have said it better myself.

I wish everyone the best of luck with what they have and hope it works. I don't know alot about many things but I do work with steel for a living and there are codes for what material will work for a specific aplication. Heck, several times I have called the QA QC manager of the Co I work for to get tech info on material. I wish I could post the application chart from work but unfrtunately it is propietory info and I could loose my job for doing it. I gain little out of posting about it, but I enjoy trying to help others
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Paul, its a waste if time with some of these guys. I know how you feel.
Who exactly are you referring to?
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Who exactly are you referring to?
You aren't one of them unless you want to be
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nope i was just curious who that was directed at
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Sorry Turbo Buick 6, I didn't realize you were the SME on this. I didn't know that after building two kits you could already know everything there is to know about building twins. I guess from now on I'll see my way out of these types of threads so as not to contradict your posts.
seriously why do you act like such a ***** when someone says anything about Rob, Nathan or hell even Cole. You always get weird when someone mentions your buddies.
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Are they MS? How do you know? I have no clue what MPI uses, that is why I am asking.
as far as I know its not stainless or anything special. Whats MS? Mild steel? Im not going to pretend I know about something I dont have the slightest clue about. Im not one who can lick a piece of metal and then rattle off every spec and attribute of it, Im just an idiot who can put a duramax and allison together following a service manual that someone smarter than me wrote.


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Even if it work its still the wrong material.
so.....? If it works, who cares? We arent building mars-bound rocket ships here. Im not going to be dissapointed if my twins piping/welding/materials choice doesnt pass with NASA.

just my [severely uneducated] opinion, I dont mean any offence to anyone in this thread.

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