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MAXLLY
05-29-2008, 01:38 PM
Mike,

I know you and Suncoast have been working on this for awhile, what is the status and the current design spec like? What does it provide? What are the current rumors? What's it gonna cost?

Which trans is proving to be the best to start with?

Mike L.
05-29-2008, 07:23 PM
Mike,

I know you and Suncoast have been working on this for awhile, what is the status and the current design spec like? What does it provide? What are the current rumors? What's it gonna cost?

Which trans is proving to be the best to start with?

They are probably available now.

MAXLLY
05-30-2008, 08:41 AM
They are probably available now.

Ok? I would prefer not to purchase it from Alabama? (Suncoast headquarters?), but if that's what i gotta do, no problem. Who should i talk to?

What can Mike L provide me :) Which trans model is proven to be most adaptable/strongest at this point? How much? How long? What do we gain performance wise? What is being used as a controller? Still cable controlled? Last we talked about the 47 (re?) 8K was mentioned... this was early on, surely the price/guess has come down? HOw do you interace it with the TCM?

That's the equivelent of 2 Mike L 4's.

Thanks Mike

LarryJewell
05-31-2008, 10:53 AM
is the dodge trans supposed to take more abuse than the allison :confused:

duratothemax
06-01-2008, 10:46 AM
is the dodge trans supposed to take more abuse than the allison :confused:

when built properly and under huge power drag racing, yes.

WolfLLY
06-01-2008, 04:21 PM
Got something against Alabama:eek: Kidding. SC is in Fort Walton, Florida.

I am interested in details also.

Mike L.
06-01-2008, 04:57 PM
I talked to Ron at SC friday and everything is ready to ship. I can handle the whole thing. I have not given up on the Alli yet. Casper is still doing fine running 10.50. How far can I take it? Good question. The race truck Guy and I are building will run the Alli.

duratothemax
06-01-2008, 07:19 PM
The race truck Guy and I are building will run the Alli.


how many gears?

Mike L.
06-02-2008, 08:58 AM
how many gears?

5 speed

SmokeShow
06-02-2008, 09:38 AM
Interested in more details about this. Is it a racing/competition only conversion or can it still be streetable and such??? What transfer case is used or can be used???

C-ya

J Spruill
06-02-2008, 06:15 PM
the suncoast 47 kit is trick.drives like an angel on the street but smack it and it rips the gears like an ally never will....

McRat
06-02-2008, 06:25 PM
the suncoast 47 kit is trick.drives like an angel on the street but smack it and it rips the gears like an ally never will....

Dunno. My Allison has never failed at a competition event. 47's can't make that claim. I've seen several fail at the track.

The Allison is a stronger trans, we just need to play to it's strengths.

NemesisDP
06-03-2008, 08:24 AM
Mike builds a nice tranny, we have a couple of them and no problems yet. We have tranny shops closer but don't mind the long drive to Cali to get one.:D

MAXLLY
06-03-2008, 09:47 AM
the suncoast 47 kit is trick.drives like an angel on the street but smack it and it rips the gears like an ally never will....

Spruill? Name is familiar. Can we open up some dialogue regarding this? Haven't you done this swap as well? Perhaps you have a 47? I am trying to "pluck" info regarding the 47/48 re/rh? Some are TPS controlled and others are cable only? I know enough about the Ally to be dangerous and i know zilch about the Dodge trans. I need simpler controls

Mike builds a great trans for sure and i have no complaints about his craftmanship.

My thinking is... i would rather "cut my own swath" versus waiting for limited info from Ally hierarchy, work around defuel, electronics, learning etc.

PM- me or maybe i may PM you so we can discuss this? Thanks.

WolfLLY
06-03-2008, 12:12 PM
;)His truck runs one;) I heard thru the grapevine it has a 48re in it now, dunno though. I bet it will be just what you are looking for Max. Maybe give suncoast a call?? Ron is cool, he will tell it like it is.

J Spruill
06-03-2008, 12:16 PM
the race truck does have a 47 in it.ask what you like and i will try to answer.if i donr know the answer i will point you in the right direction...Ron at suncoast is a good person to talk with,this has been his baby from the start...

J Spruill
06-03-2008, 12:20 PM
Dunno. My Allison has never failed at a competition event. 47's can't make that claim. I've seen several fail at the track.

The Allison is a stronger trans, we just need to play to it's strengths.
we were able to getthe ally to hold 10.5s as well,but when we added more hp it didnt care for it.anything can happen but i dont think an ally will ever see low 10s much less 9s in a full weight truck.and yes 47s can make the claim that they have never ton up in a Dmax at the track;)

MAXLLY
06-03-2008, 01:48 PM
we were able to getthe ally to hold 10.5s as well,but when we added more hp it didnt care for it.anything can happen but i dont think an ally will ever see low 10s much less 9s in a full weight truck.and yes 47s can make the claim that they have never ton up in a Dmax at the track;)

So i am talking to the right guy, perfect. You have a DMAX with a 47 and you are sub 10 50's. You are where nobody else is... congrats to you on that.

I would prefer to ask a few questions of you, if you don't mind, before I call Ron and ask the rookie questions. Please forgive my ignorance.

What is the difference between a 47 or a 48 and/or the re and rh? Is it true that the 47 is a cable trans and has no TPS to derive shift timing from? In other words, capable of a manual VB?

If you had to do it again would you choose another Dodge trans?

Are you currently using the 47 and 4x4?

Perhaps you can't/won't answer this publicly (i understand), but if you are running sub 10's than this trans is seeing in excess of 1300 HP, how long does it live between fresh's?

What did you do with your TCM and the language between the TCM and the ECM?

If you would prefer to speak in person i have PM'd you my Cell.

Thanks in advance for taking the time to respond.

MAXLLY
06-03-2008, 02:50 PM
Jess,

I got all the questions answered, thanks anyway.

I guess what it all boils down to is was it worth it?

The 48, although expensive initially, is cheaper to refresh and rebuild, parts have been around since the 60's, more people building billet parts, faster, lighter, data logging capable with Ron's kit etc etc

What have you seen? Sell me on the benefits you have realized, please.

BTW- I left you a PM with my number if that's more conveniente.

Mike L.
06-03-2008, 03:22 PM
we were able to getthe ally to hold 10.5s as well,but when we added more hp it didnt care for it.anything can happen but i dont think an ally will ever see low 10s much less 9s in a full weight truck.and yes 47s can make the claim that they have never ton up in a Dmax at the track;)

The Alli will see 9's with no problem. I'm just not sure if it will be the trans of choice when we run 8's.

MAXLLY
06-03-2008, 04:05 PM
The Alli will see 9's with no problem. I'm just not sure if it will be the trans of choice when we run 8's.

Very Cool!

I assume you have chosen a tube chassis truck, I have 6K + pounds a license plate to push around.

If you can build/tune yourself an Ally capable of 8-9 sec will you build/tune me one as well?:)

J Spruill
06-03-2008, 05:30 PM
The Alli will see 9's with no problem. I'm just not sure if it will be the trans of choice when we run 8's.

you guys gonna run a full weight truck and 9s in an ally:rofl:.i hope you can.when you do i will be in line to congradulate you...

05_LLY
06-03-2008, 05:41 PM
I think a duraflite would be the perfect replacement when the ZF finally gives up!!!

Mike L.
06-04-2008, 12:21 PM
you guys gonna run a full weight truck and 9s in an ally:rofl:.i hope you can.when you do i will be in line to congradulate you...

Full weight truck Jess. ;)

Mike L.
06-04-2008, 12:22 PM
Very Cool!

I assume you have chosen a tube chassis truck, I have 6K + pounds a license plate to push around.

If you can build/tune yourself an Ally capable of 8-9 sec will you build/tune me one as well?:)

Call me.

J Spruill
06-04-2008, 07:14 PM
Full weight truck Jess. ;)

good luck,im pulling for you

MAXLLY
06-05-2008, 08:06 AM
Call me.

Will do.